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Re: Hi- Need Help Selecting Valves and Main Vent to Balance Heating System
Hi everyone, I'm back in town and have some good news to report: the tenant is saying the front of house (farthest from boiler, and top/3rd floor) is now 2ish degrees warmer on average and in line with back of house. So in brief, I think the main venting is sorted! Tonight I'll put the 45 degree bends and nipple on the big mouth and call that part of the job done.
The next problem is getting heat to rise. The hottest room in the house (my bedroom) is first floor and a mere ~3 feet off the boiler main. And it is 78 degrees in there. The coldest room is on the 3rd floor (front or rear about equal) and they are running 65-66 degrees. 2nd floor has thermostat in the center away from the radiators and is perfect (71 degrees, a bit warm but I needed to get the 3rd floor liveable) for that reason I guess.
I'm hoping the vertical mains dont have some sort of venting to address? They are hidden in the walls (1 front, 1 rear) so I have no idea. Regardless I will try to calculate my first floor vent needs and post for sanity checking tonight. An update to follow in a few hours!
The next problem is getting heat to rise. The hottest room in the house (my bedroom) is first floor and a mere ~3 feet off the boiler main. And it is 78 degrees in there. The coldest room is on the 3rd floor (front or rear about equal) and they are running 65-66 degrees. 2nd floor has thermostat in the center away from the radiators and is perfect (71 degrees, a bit warm but I needed to get the 3rd floor liveable) for that reason I guess.
I'm hoping the vertical mains dont have some sort of venting to address? They are hidden in the walls (1 front, 1 rear) so I have no idea. Regardless I will try to calculate my first floor vent needs and post for sanity checking tonight. An update to follow in a few hours!
Re: Is Steam Inefficient?
@Jamie Hall eco rad would simply electrify each radiator for you like in Quebec. No boiler and room by room temp control PC field out back and you should be all setI don't own enough land to provide the power required ... 54 acres more or less.
Re: Is Steam Inefficient?
I really need to get some free time, and money, and build my dream hermetically sealed steam system that runs at condensing temperatures.
Re: Is Steam Inefficient?
@ChrisJ I am not always right. But since my wife is not involved in this thread I am reasonably confident in my accuracy.
Re: PONPC Question
If you are only seeing 16' of head those pipes must be whistling dixie 
. No wonder those strainers where dirty. Everything's coming back, but the kitchen sink 
. No wonder those strainers where dirty. Everything's coming back, but the kitchen sink 
Re: Two stage gas valve
@Dave0176 For clarification Yes you are coming this week but you did not do the initial install. Can’t have this mess up on your name. We did get those Big Mouths as per your previous recommendations.Yes, we (at least I) understood that Dave0176 said "the Installing contractor" so I knew it wasn't Dave. I would have known that anyway!
This board has been a true lifesaver with the knowledge provided so I can seem like I know what I’m talking about to the man of the house.
Re: Two stage gas valve
@Fred I just realized I am the contractor that’s doing the valve install.
I also did recommend removing and installing the proper size boiler.
I also did recommend removing and installing the proper size boiler.
Re: Is Steam Inefficient?
@Charlie from wmass is a good man, one of the best in my opinion, but he's not perfect and he's not always right. Fact.Would I install steam in a new building? Absolutely not.Why not? I would, and have (in houses that were being rehabbed). And don't forget- steam has much less risk of freezing up during a power or fuel failure. Sure, you can put glycol in a hot-water system, but that carries its own maintenance and environmental issues.
Can't beat H20's Gaseous State!
Before he says it, no, I'm not always right either.
Re: Is Steam Inefficient?
Homeowner is supposed to periodically visit steam boiler? Then steam is a non-starter in XXIst century. But it's a different situation for a building with a superintendent or even a maintenance contract. Toronto was a HHW area so I prefer steam. Each heating season some building needed drain down for repairs and then it was the old bleeding routine.
I also could not demonstrate that HHW used less gas. Especially compared to two pipe steam heated buildings with TRVs.
Finally there's tenants who complain unless rads are scorching hot. Same people who greet you in their underwear. Some supers overheated whole building to spare themselves those experiences.
I also could not demonstrate that HHW used less gas. Especially compared to two pipe steam heated buildings with TRVs.
Finally there's tenants who complain unless rads are scorching hot. Same people who greet you in their underwear. Some supers overheated whole building to spare themselves those experiences.
