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Re: Low level Co exposure
then removed 30 years later when they repave the road
the intersection that got a light after some of the neighbor kids were killed in an accident when i was basically too young to understand what happened got removed 10 years or so ago.

Re: Is this a house trap?
First off, the line needs to be cleared with atleast a Spear-head tip on the cable so that pipe camera cable can navigate entire lateral. Better yet, the Crab Claw should be deployed as well or you're not going to get a clear images of any compromised sewer pipe and or joints. Mad Dog
Re: Zoning with pumps vs. ZV
I would venture to say many of the zone pump systems are grossly over-pumped. I doubt installers even know how many gpm are flowing in each loop.
A 007 on a 60' fin tube loop? Really?
Unless the zones need 10 gpm or more, go with ZVs.
The wire to water efficiency of the standard PSC type wet rotor circ is in the low 20% range. When running way off curve, maybe 15%.
When you see a wall covered with 8-10 or more zone pumps, 78W each running at 20% efficiency, on a 100,000 btu/hr boiler, it make you wonder

Re: Low level Co exposure
below is an excerpt from a medical journal article citing epidemiological studies looking for elevated problems on a population basis for long term low level exposure.
to summarize, they noted some elevation, but the signal is sort of clouded when you adjust for other airborn polutants such as pm 10, pm 2.5, (fine particulate matter that crosses into the blood in the lungs) and oxides of nitrogen.
In the case of CO from poor venting with hvac equipment those other pollutants are likely to be spilling in addition to CO….
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK153687/
“Several multi-city studies have found significant associations between increasing short-term average ambient air carbon monoxide concentration and increasing mortality risk when carbon monoxide is considered in single-pollutant models, with the associations attenuated when models were adjusted for other co-pollutants. A time-series study examined mortality in 82 U.S. cities during the period 1987–1994 (Dominici et al. 2003b; HEI 2005; Samet et al. 2000). In the Dominici et al. (2003b) analysis of these data, a 1 ppmincrease in ambient air carbon monoxide concentration (lag 1 day) was associated with increased mortality (from all causes) of 0.46% (95% CI: 0.18, 0.73). Mortality risk was not significant after adjustment for air concentration of PM
10
alone or for PM
10
and NO
2
. A time-series study examined morality in 12 Canadian cities during the period 1987–1994 (Burnett et al. 2004). Mortality risk (all non-accidental causes) was significantly associated with ambient air carbon monoxide concentration (lag 1 day) in single-pollutant models, with an increase of 0.68% (t=3.12) per 1.02 ppm increases in air carbon monoxide concentration. However, the association did not persist when adjusted for NO
2
(0.07%, t=0.30). A time-series analysis examined mortality in 19 European cities during the period 1990–1997 (Samoli et al. 2007). This study found a significant association between carbon monoxide and total non-accidental and cardiovascular mortality in single-pollutant models. The estimated effect size varied depending on the model applied. The effect size for total mortality based on a single-pollutant model ranged from 0.59% increase (95% CI: 0.41, 1.79) to 1.20% (95% CI: 0.63, 1.77) per 1 mg/m
3
increase in carbon monoxide concentration (0–1-day lag). The effect on cardiovascular mortality ranged from 0.8% increase (95% CI: 0.53, 1.07) to 1.25 (95% CI: 0.30, 2.21). Inclusion of black smoke or NO
2
in the models substantially decreased the estimated risk attributable to carbon monoxide, with the effect sizes no longer significant in some models.”
Re: Low level Co exposure
i thought that had more to do with nitrous oxides than CO? and apparently a high number of dwellings where methane was just leaking out somewhere.

Re: What Gas Boilers Are Manufactured In The U.S.A.?
Maid O Mist was acquired DiversiTech While not explicitly stated in all results, DiversiTech Corporation is widely known to have acquired Maid-O'-Mist. DiversiTech has manufacturing and distribution facilities in the U.S.
The "All" Factor: Companies often source components globally, and product lines can change, especially after acquisitions (Maid-O'-Mist is now owned by DiversiTech, which has global operations). There isn't readily available public information from Maid-O'-Mist or DiversiTech guaranteeing that 100% of every item carrying the Maid-O'-Mist name is exclusively manufactured in the USA.
Now in 2017 Permira, the global private equity firm, announced today that a company backed by the Permira funds has successfully completed the acquisition of DiversiTech,
November 17, 2021 – Permira, the global private equity firm, today announced that the Permira funds have agreed to sell DiversiTech, a market leading supplier of critical Heating, Ventilation, Air Conditioning/Refrigeration “HVAC/R” Parts, Supplies and Accessories, to Partners Group, a leading global private markets firm, for an enterprise value of $2.2 billion. Partners Group and management will be the largest investors going forward, with the Permira funds maintaining an ownership stake.
So When did you email them 🤣oh and where are they based ? Or is your Crystal Ball still out for repair 🔮🤭
And it's NOT Illinois 😚
Edit: additional information
MAID-O'-MIST HEATING SPECIALTIES, INC.
Company Number
CORP_64258826
Native Company Number
64258826
Status
Dissolved
Incorporation Date
19 May 2005 (almost 20 years ago)
Dissolution Date
30 April 2020
Company Type
Domestic BCA
Jurisdiction
Illinois (US)
Inactive Directors / Officers
TAMARA A. MARSHALL, agent, 17 Jul 2019-

Re: Delayed condensate returns
" Again the configuration of the building has an effect on tank size. "
@RayWohlfarth's calculations do include that variable. Just change it to what is more factual for that building.
bayridge stated " We have a 38 gallon boiler feed tank "
If I understand the formula correctly and did the math correctly for a 100 HP boiler, if the condensate is not coming back in 5.5 minutes the tank is too small.
Which is probably why the addition of the tank helped but did not totally solve the problem.
Thanks @RayWohlfarth, it all seems to make sense (at least to me) when the due diligence is done.
Re: What Gas Boilers Are Manufactured In The U.S.A.?
When I worked in the automotive industry, outsourcing was sometimes a positive thing. Like when a manufacturer really couldn't make a decent automatic transmission..... then they would use a global source for their automatics and would be much better. Aisin, and ZF come to mind.
That said, I've used Weil McLain mod/cons as well as NTI which both use the popular AIC (Poland) made firetube HX. Very well made.
Re: Horizontal Vent Buderus G124X?
I would have to take a measurement, but it really wouldn’t have to get vented that far. Probably like 13 or 14 feet worst case scenario, I just ripped the brick chimney down and get a sleeve for a roof extrusion.
Re: What Gas Boilers Are Manufactured In The U.S.A.?
Shrinking market for product that can last for decades.
