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How long should a 275 gallon oil storage tank last?
I have an older 275 gallon oil tank in basement that could be 50 years old and no signs of any leaks. It has a bottom spout on tank that connects to line to burner and the tank is slightly pitched towards the spout when I put a level on it
The metal plate on top says: "Underwriters Laboratories, Inc" "Inside Oil Tank" "Metal No Gage no F?" I think
Regards,
RTW
Re: Multiple temperatures on single zone with single circulator pump?
Thank you all for your help!
First off, apologies for the long delay. I have been fighting some personal problems that prevented me from getting back to read/reply.
I did decide to stick with traditional design approach using separate circ pump for the radiator loop. And of course the main loop is not interrupted by the mixing valve — closely spaced Ts off loop. Lots of good information here, and seems not worth experimenting on something that seems unlikely to work well. I really appreciate all of the thoughtful comments!
Comment to a couple of the posts — the mixing valve does properly regulate floor temperature to the set temp, while the furnace itself decides what the loop water temp should be. It's actually not an outdoor reset (though that can be easily added with an optional temperature sensor). Without the reset, the boiler uses some sort of "intelligent" algorithm based on overall system demand. I honestly don't think it does anything from energy saving perspective for the underfloor zones since their temperature is controlled by mixing valves so always at steady set temp. But I can see it being beneficial for the radiator zones.
Sadly, it is all cast iron. And yes, I fight the sludge problem (flushing every year and keeping chemicals in helps). One of the zones was totally plugged when I moved in, and initial flushing to get everything going was a PITA. Didn't really know why I keep getting dirty water until I discovered the PB issue and fact that it is not oxygen barrier. I met the plumber who did the whole thing to begin with, and he admitted it was his "first system" and he made "some mistakes". I've learned since then that basically the whole thing was done wrong. Had I known what I know now, I would have just pulled it all out a long time ago. After replacing the PB, I will have essentially replaced everything except one of the circulator pumps.
The system works properly in some parts of the house, but not in others. Two main is days. The loops were not done correctly, and I've learned that the worst of the rooms has no insulation under the floor (explaining why the basement room below stays sufficiently warm without it's radiator ever running). The tubes do not have heat spreaders, so as you can imagine I don't get nearly enough coming up through the floor. Fixing this would require tearing out ceiling under both rooms, so I'm inclined to abandon the underfloor for those two rooms and use radiators instead.
Second issue, as has been discussed, is I have PB and cast iron everywhere. Installed new boiler a couple years ago because the original was breaking down, and didn't know about the non-oxy-PB issue at the time. I'm starting to replace all the PB with poly to deal with this (as well as the inspection issues I will run into when I sell if I leave PB in place). Fortunately, I have fairly easy access to everything except those two rooms.
I'm now looking more closely at those radiators, and will probably start a new post on it if I can't find my error. I'm having a lot of difficulty believing what I'm coming up with on required length based on BTU calculations…because I've never seen a small room with as much baseboard as the calculators are telling me I need! BTU is calculating around 13,000 for a 138 Sq Foot room. That's 20+ feet per room for a 11 1/2 x 12 ft room! Way more than my original 8' that came from a generic estimator. My neighbor has all baseboard in a similarly built house, with nowhere near that much baseboard in his rooms. And I've never seen baseboard around here that covers two walls of any bedroom. But, maybe I just haven't been sufficiently observent.
Re: Blueray Recall?
If it is the original "Blu-ray" from the early 80s that burned with a blue flame blue they originally had Carlin burners with a gizmo on the end to recirculate the combustion gasses so the flame would turn blue.
They did work but were more trouble than they were worth to keep running. Very touchy.
They then came out with a yellow flame kit to convert them back into a normal burner.
I never saw one with a Beckett burner but I suppose there is no reason it couldn't work.
I would have thought all of those would have been long gone by now.
Re: Attached EDR vs Boiler SF of steam
In second day of Peerless 63, last nite 9degrees, today 25, tonite 6. I can't believe how well it's working…so quiet, radiators all doing what their supposed to. I've been a member for yrs. My prior house had a Richardson Vapor system, I actually got it working in vacuum. Actually had one of main steam guys here who came to house in Pittston, Pa. He was from Jersey and he was only one who'd work on pipe that needed to be addressed. It was wrapped with asbestos and no heat guys locally would touch it. After it was piped correctly, I was able to put a vacuum vent on which worked wonderfully. I chose the Peerless because it was closest to EDR. The company I dealt with installed only WM, PB and Nivien.
Re: DHW Recirculation Is Great!
Bob,
It is on a timer and I only need it to run for less than 1 minute.
Re: 3,/4 pex fitting
Yes, Viega Pureflow fittings are what I use when I don't know what kind of PEX I'm working with.
Re: Can you please critique this boiler setup that was installed in my house two wks ago
After reading @EBEBRATT-Ed's earliest post, I have this doctored photo that is be the easiest fix for you @RCooper.
Re: Attached EDR vs Boiler SF of steam
They are the same units. Always round down. Always
Re: 3,/4 pex fitting
As far as barbed fittings with crimp rings, no, they’ll work with either. So will Pureflow.
But as GGross pointed out, expansion fittings are a different matter.
Ironman



