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A Listing of Vapor Systems that don't (yet) appear in "Lost Art"

SteamheadSteamhead Member Posts: 13,998
edited October 16 in Strictly Steam
Posted in the interest of centralizing links to the ever-expanding number of threads showing Vapor systems we've seen that are not otherwise documented. I'll add to the list as we go, feel free to do the same:

Dunham model DH Differential Vacuum System, Chicago, IL/Marshalltown, IA:
https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/104173/need-help-understanding-dunham-system
and https://heatinghelp.com/heating-museum/dunham-differential-system/

E. F. Houghton Co., Philadelphia, PA:
https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/170044/e-f-houghton-co

Johns-Manville:
https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/179341/found-a-new-vapor-species-johns-manville-yes-apparently-that-johns-manville/

MILVACO (Milwaukee Valve Co.):
https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/181044/goin-up-the-country-milvaco-vapor-megasteam-rescue

Safety Vapor Heating Co., Buffalo, NY:
https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/177990/remnants-from-an-old-safety-vapor-sytem
and https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/157981/never-a-dull-moment-in-steam-heat
and https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/155727/should-new-traps-get-new-cage-units

Thermograde Valve Co., Boston, MA and Baltimore, MD:
https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/178131/help-me-figure-out-my-2-pipe-system

Triumph Valve Co., Mansfield, OH:
https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/169680/found-a-new-vapor-species-triumph

Tudor system, also known as French or German system: https://heatinghelp.com/heating-museum/european-heating-systems-circa-1907/

Wiley, made by Simplex Steam Specialty Co., Lynchburg, VA:
https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/168769/need-steam-pro-help-in-roanoke-va
and https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/168879/its-a-wiley-simplex-not-a-vapor-regulator-co-system/
Edgar Wiley's patents are here- looks like @StevePajek was way ahead of us:
https://heatinghelp.com/heating-museum/edgar-wiley-vapor-system/
https://heatinghelp.com/heating-museum/wiley-water-seal-radiator-trap/
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  • DanHolohanDanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 15,047
    Great idea. Thanks!
    Retired and loving it.
  • Hap_HazzardHap_Hazzard Member Posts: 2,263
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    Just another DIYer | King of Prussia, PA

    1983(?) Peerless G-561-W-S | 3" drop header, CG400-1090, VXT-24
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  • SteamheadSteamhead Member Posts: 13,998

    Great idea. Thanks!

    When we get enough of these, it'll be time for "The Lost Art of Steam Heating, Revisited Again".
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  • Hap_HazzardHap_Hazzard Member Posts: 2,263
    Re-revisited? :D
    Just another DIYer | King of Prussia, PA

    1983(?) Peerless G-561-W-S | 3" drop header, CG400-1090, VXT-24
  • DanHolohanDanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 15,047
    :D
    Retired and loving it.
  • Erin Holohan HaskellErin Holohan Haskell Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 1,418
    In the meantime, we'll add them to the Heating Museum. Thanks, @Steamhead.
    President
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  • clammyclammy Member Posts: 2,531
    Fulton syphon is yet another 2 pipe w very early trv on supply w inverted bucket traps and regular traps mounted above as air vents due to low vent abilities of the inverted bucket traps .it was in a 5 or 6 story commercial building I would guess from the early 1910 or so original coal to oil boiler was still in place non functioning . Peace and good luck clammy
    R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
    NJ Master HVAC Lic.
    Mahwah, NJ
    Specializing in steam and hydronic heating
  • SteamheadSteamhead Member Posts: 13,998
    ISTR Webster owned Fulton Sylphon for a while..... any Webster gear on that job (vent trap, return trap etc)?
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  • clammyclammy Member Posts: 2,531
    On the old boiler which was a burmham coal boiler and there was a Webster return trap but some time in the 30sa huge addition was added to the side off the original building which was like I said 5 or 6 stories tall . They installed 2 1 mil fire tube steammers and the addition they built was a chase manhattan bank I believe there was a giant 8 ft tall vault door and the vault was in the basement ,it was like stepping back in history . The new system had I guess re used some of the original rads but they had installed hvac system complete w pneumatic controls steam coils and chilled water coils . All the old stuff was mostly still there including the original belt drive compresssores tube and shell Evaps The original water cooled then tower cooled condenser and tower piping most looked just like the building neglected for decades and purchased for peanuts but aside from the neglect there was a lot of old cool mechanical stuff there but unfortunately most of which was unrepairable and the scope of repairs would have never had any roi for what they wanted . But upon doing some cleaning of some illonis inverted bucket traps and the trap air assemblies ,flushing out of some clogged gravity returns and repairs of some leaks and coil leaks I got steam to every floor after opening all the trv radiator hand valves , I was even impressed that it all worked especially after many many years of at 3 floors of rads being off after opening the hand valves there was heat .Saddest thing is the fire tube boiler went and the building owner figured he could gc it himself added up the 2 boiler and came up w 2.4 mbtu w a non staging powerflame burner you can guess it short cycled especially w over 50% of the radiation disabled to lower the bill . There’s some steam history knuckle heading history from p town Peace and good luck clammy
    R.A. Calmbacher L.L.C. HVAC
    NJ Master HVAC Lic.
    Mahwah, NJ
    Specializing in steam and hydronic heating
  • Double DDouble D Member Posts: 352
    @Steamhead Here is another one who posted his Safety vapor system on the wall.
    https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/155727/should-new-traps-get-new-cage-units
  • SteamheadSteamhead Member Posts: 13,998
    Updated.

    So- is the return fitting essentially a water seal with a little hole to let air escape, as in Broomell, VECO etc?
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  • Double DDouble D Member Posts: 352
    That's exactly the way it works. The picture with the pen pointing to the little hole is where the air escapes. The bottom flared portion sits in a water seal. The center is hollow giving the air the path to the dry return. Silkey took pictures with the valve off but the lid still sealed. One from the union connection at the radiator and one from where it threads onto the pipe through the floor.
  • SteamheadSteamhead Member Posts: 13,998
    Makes perfect sense. We'll never see it all, eh?
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  • Double DDouble D Member Posts: 352
    Probably not but what makes this sight so great is what one hasn't seen there a chance maybe someone else has.
    Dan Foley
  • SteamheadSteamhead Member Posts: 13,998
    Bump- added links to the Wiley patents.
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  • Double DDouble D Member Posts: 352
    Cayote??
  • SteamheadSteamhead Member Posts: 13,998
    Double D said:

    Cayote??

    ??????????????????
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  • Double DDouble D Member Posts: 352
    Oh, Wiley parents. Got it.
  • SteamheadSteamhead Member Posts: 13,998
    edited October 16
    Edit- moved Johns-Manville to the main list.
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  • SteamheadSteamhead Member Posts: 13,998
    edited October 16
    Edit- moved MILVACO to the main list.
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