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Re: Removal of 80 gallon stone lined water heater
“ But I let my Neice borrow the trailer and when I texted her today, she said it is sitting in her yard full of mulch and has a flat tire.”
@EBEBRATT-Ed - That was pretty rude of you to saddle her with a trailer with a flat tire! We all know it’s impossible to offload mulch with a flat tire!😂
@EBEBRATT-Ed - That was pretty rude of you to saddle her with a trailer with a flat tire! We all know it’s impossible to offload mulch with a flat tire!😂


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Removal of 80 gallon stone lined water heater
Back in May I decided to finally replace our 80 gallon stone lined Vaughn electric water heater. It was over 20 years old but not leaking and may have lasted forever but it's an energy pig for two people. These Vaughn stone lined tank were very popular with the electric utilities installed them (including this one before we owned this place) for years. But our local utility gave up on that a few years back and said "you now own the tank."
Thanks a lot!!!
I knew it was going to be a PITA and wanted to get it done before it let go or I got any older. It probably would outlast me!
So, I bought a new 40 gallon and installed it back in May. The old heater with the cement lining is about 400# empty. I got it up on some 1" pipe for rollers and pushed it to the side where it sat and sat LOL
I stripped the plastic jacket off it and then all the 2" foam. Originally, I thought I would cut it with a grinder with a cutting disk and then break up the concrete. The stairs are very tight with a sharp turn at the top and bottom. No outside entrance to the cellar.
The cellar is semi-finished off so I hung plastic around the tank area and with safety goggles and a mask started cutting. It just made too much of a mess and the neighbors (we are in a condo) complained about the noise. I folded back part of the steel (1/8" thick) and tried busting the concrete and that was going to be tough. I also tried a Sawzall and bought a metal cutting blade for my Skill saw and that didn't work out well either
So, then I tried call a few junk guys to take it out. No one wanted anything to do with it. The one honest guy told me to cut it up he would have to charge me over $xxxx.xx to take it out.
Time for plan B
So today (while my girlfriend was gone for the day) was my time to strike.
I used a Come a Long and pulled it up the stairs which worked like a dream. Once I was all set up I had it upstairs in 10-15 min.
I used a 5/8" eye bolt with a rod coupling and a piece of rod with some nuts and washers a made a hole in the sheet rock wall.
Now you know why I waited till she was gone.
I put a 3' 2 x 6 on each side of the wall to sandwich the wall. No damage to the sheet rock at all except for the 1" hole I made which I patched.
So, the good news is I got it out of the celler!!
Bad news is it's sitting in the kitchen so I am still feeling the heat.
I got to wait to get my brother to give me a hand getting it out the door down 3 steps and onto my trailer.
But I let my Neice borrow the trailer and when I texted her today, she said it is sitting in her yard full of mulch and has a flat tire.
When I stretched out my come a long it was 3" short. So, I had a few xtra shackles I made up the distance with. Of course when I got up to the top step I ran out of cable and had to disconnect the shackles. I drilled a hole in the tank and used a piece of 1/4" wire rope and some clips up and back up through the HW outlet to hook on to the tank.
So the saga continues!!


Thanks a lot!!!
I knew it was going to be a PITA and wanted to get it done before it let go or I got any older. It probably would outlast me!
So, I bought a new 40 gallon and installed it back in May. The old heater with the cement lining is about 400# empty. I got it up on some 1" pipe for rollers and pushed it to the side where it sat and sat LOL
I stripped the plastic jacket off it and then all the 2" foam. Originally, I thought I would cut it with a grinder with a cutting disk and then break up the concrete. The stairs are very tight with a sharp turn at the top and bottom. No outside entrance to the cellar.
The cellar is semi-finished off so I hung plastic around the tank area and with safety goggles and a mask started cutting. It just made too much of a mess and the neighbors (we are in a condo) complained about the noise. I folded back part of the steel (1/8" thick) and tried busting the concrete and that was going to be tough. I also tried a Sawzall and bought a metal cutting blade for my Skill saw and that didn't work out well either
So, then I tried call a few junk guys to take it out. No one wanted anything to do with it. The one honest guy told me to cut it up he would have to charge me over $xxxx.xx to take it out.
Time for plan B
So today (while my girlfriend was gone for the day) was my time to strike.
I used a Come a Long and pulled it up the stairs which worked like a dream. Once I was all set up I had it upstairs in 10-15 min.
I used a 5/8" eye bolt with a rod coupling and a piece of rod with some nuts and washers a made a hole in the sheet rock wall.
Now you know why I waited till she was gone.
I put a 3' 2 x 6 on each side of the wall to sandwich the wall. No damage to the sheet rock at all except for the 1" hole I made which I patched.
So, the good news is I got it out of the celler!!
Bad news is it's sitting in the kitchen so I am still feeling the heat.
I got to wait to get my brother to give me a hand getting it out the door down 3 steps and onto my trailer.
But I let my Neice borrow the trailer and when I texted her today, she said it is sitting in her yard full of mulch and has a flat tire.
When I stretched out my come a long it was 3" short. So, I had a few xtra shackles I made up the distance with. Of course when I got up to the top step I ran out of cable and had to disconnect the shackles. I drilled a hole in the tank and used a piece of 1/4" wire rope and some clips up and back up through the HW outlet to hook on to the tank.
So the saga continues!!



Re: What is the highest efficiency residential boiler?
And when the high efficiency furnace breaks?Also, another thing to remember is that the simple atmospheric boiler uses about 1/80th ( not 1/8th) the electricity of a "high efficiency" forced air furnace and somewhere around a quarter of a "high efficiency" hot water boiler. The efficiency numbers on equipment are extremely misleading when comparing different types of equipment as they are not based upon the total energy consumption of the equipment and the losses in a typical system.
Sure, electricity usage is less but doesn't outweigh the increased gas usage.
For example: 60,000 peak load, $1/Therm and $.20/kwh. A 82% steam boiler using 0 electricity costs 5% more than a 95% furnace using 300W. When load is less and the blower is moving only a 1/3 of the air, the savings increase.

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Re: The last word about c-wire thermostats and wiring diagrams.
The only thing I'd like to add is, if we started calling it the Common wire instead of "C Wire" it might make it easier to more people to understand.I'm not sure that would work Chris. I myself happen to have placed a very uncommon type of wire on the common terminal of a rare control that in not commonly used in an unusual place when we start talking about this on an regular basis, when in unfamiliar territory.
It is not uncommon to be irregular when approaching this subject. And talking about the opposite of common, and the whole Irregular thing, I would do the whole exlax® joke but I don't want to offend anyone @EricPeterson. Some of us have grown out of the poop joke stage. Some not. And @pecmsg has a lot to say about this whole Nest thing. Don’t let him fool you, he is actually a secret admirer
Re: Ok...now I'm a believer.....
On a used poop pipe spraying that all over?
That's why they invented bath-showers. Don't lick your fingers. I hate soil pipes, every germ in God's green acre lives there.Re: Ok...now I'm a believer.....
Angle grinder with a cutting disk goes through it like butter.On a used poop pipe spraying that all over?


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Re: Ok...now I'm a believer.....
They are not just "Betterer" Matt. They are the BESTIST!!!
Re: Like a boy with new Toy Blocks & Erector set at Christmas 🎄
I have bent steal in my bare hands on occasion!

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Re: Like a boy with new Toy Blocks & Erector set at Christmas 🎄
Did you wipe that in to a pvc coupler?

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