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Re: Cold house
Sometimes room air circulation through baseboard radiators is blocked by carpeting, drapes or furniture. Air must be able to enter the radiator from the bottom and leave at the top, so an airspace of at least 1/2 inch and preferably 1 inch is needed. A sofa pushed against the wall can also restrict this.
bburd
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Re: The case of Ray versus the A dimension
My feeling is that the Dimension A probably is more applicable to larger systems than typical residential stuff.
There are a lot of old building using 1 pipe steam that are a lot bigger than a typical house. Bigger systems usually +more pressure drop.
@RayWohlfarth
Not just steel but CI as well. A lot of the old CI boilers were 1pipe out (supply) and I Pipe in (return with a swing check)
Commercial stuff usually has (or is more likely to have) a condensate return tank or boiler feed tank so it doesn't need a Hartford Loop.
Equalizers have to be on a CI boiler now because they throw water into the header. (would be much better if the water stayed in the boiler like it did with old boilers) Steel boilers like a Scotch or Steel fire box boiler have a large area inside to release the steam from the water. On a CI boiler that space is all cut up into individual sections ....by the sections. Every section is an individual boiler. Steel boiler are just a huge tank of water with fire tubes running through them. No restriction on water or steam flow. CI The water and steam have to navigate all these passageways in the sections and the sections will run at different temperatures. A CI boiler with a power burner will always get hot and steam the rear sections before the front.
That's why on CI we need all these equalizers and external headers that a steel boiler can survive without.
And yes. The Hartford Loop was originally supposed to keep water in the boiler if the return line leaked but the best it could do is buy them some time. Coal fired there was no low water control. A lot of the old coal CI boilers had a fusible plug above the combustion chamber. If the boiler finally got low on water the plug would melt when the water got low then it would dump the remaining water on the coal fire in hopes of putting it out.
jmho
Even a huge steel boiler only has 1 supply weather it is 8, 10, 12" whatever no boiler header, no equalizer
There are a lot of old building using 1 pipe steam that are a lot bigger than a typical house. Bigger systems usually +more pressure drop.
@RayWohlfarth
Not just steel but CI as well. A lot of the old CI boilers were 1pipe out (supply) and I Pipe in (return with a swing check)
Commercial stuff usually has (or is more likely to have) a condensate return tank or boiler feed tank so it doesn't need a Hartford Loop.
Equalizers have to be on a CI boiler now because they throw water into the header. (would be much better if the water stayed in the boiler like it did with old boilers) Steel boilers like a Scotch or Steel fire box boiler have a large area inside to release the steam from the water. On a CI boiler that space is all cut up into individual sections ....by the sections. Every section is an individual boiler. Steel boiler are just a huge tank of water with fire tubes running through them. No restriction on water or steam flow. CI The water and steam have to navigate all these passageways in the sections and the sections will run at different temperatures. A CI boiler with a power burner will always get hot and steam the rear sections before the front.
That's why on CI we need all these equalizers and external headers that a steel boiler can survive without.
And yes. The Hartford Loop was originally supposed to keep water in the boiler if the return line leaked but the best it could do is buy them some time. Coal fired there was no low water control. A lot of the old coal CI boilers had a fusible plug above the combustion chamber. If the boiler finally got low on water the plug would melt when the water got low then it would dump the remaining water on the coal fire in hopes of putting it out.
jmho
Even a huge steel boiler only has 1 supply weather it is 8, 10, 12" whatever no boiler header, no equalizer
Re: Sidewall venting
@annie11771
Please see the Victory boiler manual attached. See page 4 it states that "all victory boiler models can be side wall vented" Page 5 has the horizontal venting instructions
When you say the chimney is collapsing do you know if it is the structural part of the chimney or the clay liner? A 1910 house may not have a liner.
In addition, usually it is just the upper part of the chimney that is exposed above the roof that deteriorates and they can usually be rebuilt from just below the roof.
But all cases are different I am just trying to find out what is going on and if whomever inspected it is exaggerating.
Please see the Victory boiler manual attached. See page 4 it states that "all victory boiler models can be side wall vented" Page 5 has the horizontal venting instructions
When you say the chimney is collapsing do you know if it is the structural part of the chimney or the clay liner? A 1910 house may not have a liner.
In addition, usually it is just the upper part of the chimney that is exposed above the roof that deteriorates and they can usually be rebuilt from just below the roof.
But all cases are different I am just trying to find out what is going on and if whomever inspected it is exaggerating.
Re: The case of Ray versus the A dimension
We should always have these discussions. When someone actually measures the actual performance of an assumption made by some dead man that maybe had a unique situation and therefore applied that "RULE" to every system regardless of the differences in the systems, we can see the "Myth Buster" at work. Thanks Paul for your comments and video. You actually taught me something so many months ago after our extensive discussion on that subject. 
The fact that the "Dimension A" is part of Steam textbooks means that at some point there was an issue, Could it have been on a system with steam mains that were too small and therefore there was a significant pressure drop off, or were there other factors …only the dead men know. But the explanation Ray offers does have its basis in physics of water and pressures and the like. So understanding that IF you happen to come across a one pipe system that does have that pressure drop issue, the Dimension A will resolve it. IF (and that is BIg IF PAUL) you find it, you can see the fix in your mind's eye without the need to install glass pipes and pressure gauges all over the place. But I really like the Weil McLain glass boiler and @ethicalpaul's glass pipes.

The fact that the "Dimension A" is part of Steam textbooks means that at some point there was an issue, Could it have been on a system with steam mains that were too small and therefore there was a significant pressure drop off, or were there other factors …only the dead men know. But the explanation Ray offers does have its basis in physics of water and pressures and the like. So understanding that IF you happen to come across a one pipe system that does have that pressure drop issue, the Dimension A will resolve it. IF (and that is BIg IF PAUL) you find it, you can see the fix in your mind's eye without the need to install glass pipes and pressure gauges all over the place. But I really like the Weil McLain glass boiler and @ethicalpaul's glass pipes.
Re: Need help evaluating a contractor/hydronic heat boiler plan
Code should / may require a back flow protector.
Either way their cheap insurance.
https://www.supplyhouse.com/Resideo-Braukmann-FM911-1-2-FM911-Backflow-Preventer-Boiler-Fill-Valve-Assembly-NPT-or-Sweat
Either way their cheap insurance.
https://www.supplyhouse.com/Resideo-Braukmann-FM911-1-2-FM911-Backflow-Preventer-Boiler-Fill-Valve-Assembly-NPT-or-Sweat
pecmsg
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Re: New Burnham steam boiler only heats fully in the morning
Perhaps they all get hot only in the morning, because the thermostat is turned up from a low nighttime setback temp and has a longer run time than during the day when it is just maintaining. It seems like venting can be an issue, are the radiator vents adjustable?
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Re: Safety concerns and replacement options for a 140 co ppm 35 year old boiler
Some of the information you have been told is correct and some is incorrect.
CO readings in the flue are recommended to be "Less than 100PPM" is ok to run, less than 50 PPM is recommended.
Since you have a boiler the heat exchanger is not broken. If it was you would have water leaking out of it.
Also the boiler should be run at "steady state" meaning its all warmed up before readings are taken.
Put a cold pan of water on a gas stove burner and it will make CO until the water is warm.
Your are right to be concerned about the CO level but I would not panic about it. As the MA Save auditor told you it is apparently not leaking CO into the house it is going up the flue.
The tough part is finding a knowledgeable technician. It could be a little soot on the burners or a burner knocked out of alignment or a minor gas pressure adjustment could fix this issue. There is no way to know the answer until someone works on it.
Post your location in MA. Someone may have a recommendation for a service tech.
CO readings in the flue are recommended to be "Less than 100PPM" is ok to run, less than 50 PPM is recommended.
Since you have a boiler the heat exchanger is not broken. If it was you would have water leaking out of it.
Also the boiler should be run at "steady state" meaning its all warmed up before readings are taken.
Put a cold pan of water on a gas stove burner and it will make CO until the water is warm.
Your are right to be concerned about the CO level but I would not panic about it. As the MA Save auditor told you it is apparently not leaking CO into the house it is going up the flue.
The tough part is finding a knowledgeable technician. It could be a little soot on the burners or a burner knocked out of alignment or a minor gas pressure adjustment could fix this issue. There is no way to know the answer until someone works on it.
Post your location in MA. Someone may have a recommendation for a service tech.
Gurgling sound in wall..
Hello folks- I'm getting this gurgling sound coming from the pipes in the wall to upstairs radiator. Steam heat..Thoughts
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Re: Replacement circulator help?
I would steer you towards the brass version, can you get it into a horizontal run somewhere?
That rotating collar design adds some restriction.
That rotating collar design adds some restriction.
hot_rod
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Re: Shorted Pump
A glass tube fuse that is loaded just above its rating for a long period or in a holder that is making poor contact or has a bad termination to it can melt the solder in the cap of the fuse instead of the element and weird things can happen. or it could just be a manufacturing defect.
The incandescent lamp in series is a good way to test the circulator without burning something else up.
The incandescent lamp in series is a good way to test the circulator without burning something else up.
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