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Re: Makeup water causing boiler failure due to thermal shock
Will thermal shock hurt a boiler and how much thermal shock? Who knows?
We were told in school that you could drain and refill a steel boiler with cold water but don't do it with CI. That's good enough for me.
I also have had the experience that @retiredguy mentioned about draining a boiler that the steam is connected to another operating boiler.
You will only do that one time believe me. The idle boiler is cold and the steam rushing in condenses and causes hammer. 1700 times a volume reduction it is a noise you never forget. It is a lot more powerful than you would think.
But as far as thermal shock why take the chance?
It will not help the boiler, it will cause stress to the cast iron.
We had a CI boiler Smith 2500 that the lwco failed. My coworker showed up and the boiler was red hot and glowing. He went back the next day after it had cooled and the boiler held water. He installed a new LWCO and fired it up and made steam. No leaks so we let it run.
A few days later it puked water all over.
Re: DC-GCVC960603BN Direct Comfort by Goodman blowing backwards
@Ironman is right, centrifugal blowers literally cannot blow backwards. They might not work as good, and might be loud in the wrong direction, but it'll still blow outwards.
ChrisJ
Re: Need to replace 2 radiators in Woodside, Queens, NY
@paddys , post some pics of your radiators. I'll bet there's a proper place for a steam vent on them, just have to drill and tap it.
Re: Makeup water causing boiler failure due to thermal shock
The part above the water line in a steam boiler could be and likely is significantly above ~212 f since it won't be able to transfer heat to the steam gas nearly as efficiently as it can transfer to the liquid water. I wonder is surging and thermal shock and maybe particularly not resistant to thermal shock construction is how the problematic burnahms run in to problems.
Re: Struggling with MHK2 thermostat install on Mitsubishi Minisplits
small rooms, they are oversized 10 times out of 10. Mini units/ multi zone systems can only turn down so much. The add in the hot gas (multi zone is always moving ref), you have overheating
GW
Re: How to delete boiler coil and replace it with a HPWH
Upper blue valve looks like cold supply, that goes to tank C.
The copper tube going vertically behind the brass reducing valve looks like hot to building. That connects to H on tank.
Expansion tank goes on cold feed. Piping examples are usually included in the box with the tank
Run a hot water faucet and put your hands on the pipes to see which gets cold, which gets hot, to confirm.
hot_rod
Re: New House, New Problems- Introduction and seeking help on new to me steam
1 radiator in particular, 2nd Floor Bedroom 2(the smallest radiator in the system), gurgles like crazy. Sounds like boiling water in the wall and at the radiator itself. This starts once it heats up. The last rad in the system, 1st floor entry, eventually does the same thing but it takes a bit longer. Working on installing the Gorton #2 and hopefully that will alleviate this problem.
It probably won't help. You likely have a sagging steam supply pipe leading to that radiator that is holding some condensate after the heating cycle ends. Ideally, all the pipes are pitched in a way that all the condensate drains back to the boiler. When the next call for heat starts, the steam has to heat up all this sitting water and will cause knocking, or gurgling, or both.
The numbers at the bottom of this image below are your "net square feet of steam" which is equivalent to EDR, which is the total square feet of exposed radiator surface in your home. The short answer is your home is tiny and you should have used the 75k boiler because its "sq ft of steam" value more closely matches your actual radiation of 230. Unfortunately it's very very common to have an oversized boiler. Yours is a lot less oversized than some we see around here. It will work, it just may so-called "short cycle" a little more than you'd like. You can minimize it by not turning down your thermostat at night or when you are away from the house for less than a day.
Re: Corroded return pipe
I don't claim to know the reason, but it is common to get corrosion where the return water, make up water and hot boiler water meet.
I have seen this many times
Re: Makeup water causing boiler failure due to thermal shock
Not really. The gas valve locked open as a result of the electrical event keeps fuel going. That same electrical event on an oil burner would stop the fuel from pumping from the tank to the combustion chamber.
Re: DC-GCVC960603BN Direct Comfort by Goodman blowing backwards
Furnace installed backwards?
If the blower motor were turning backwards, there would be very little air movement, but it would still be in the right direction.
Ironman


