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Re: Triangle Tube Cold Feet
I feel like everyone should be forced to read "Pumping Away" before installing a boiler.
Is the system working well for you?
Is the system working well for you?
Signed on...
for another year of heatinghelp.com's "Find A Contractor". Thanks Dan for making that available. Hands down the most informed, potential customers come through this site which makes my job so much easier.
Re: Reflective foil good for under concrete floor heat
I'm seeing those nasty kinks too, who knows how many more exist. I wouldn't dream of 24" OC spacing unless it was a warehouse...what a shame. Do-over!
Re: Hiring Mechanics... Is there anyone out there at all these days?
It's getting the new blood, quality, presentable, enthusiastic, without looking like they worked at a tattoo and piercing place..that's the problem. A willingness to learn - let's start there
Re: Do I really need a Navien CH-240?
Thank you for proving my point.I can see by your posts that you do not have a fluid understanding in hydronics. Your tankless was operating with domestic pressure driving flow.That is by far the worst dumb assssss comment ive ever seen.
Have you set one up and played with?
1. I am on well pump not city 60PSI constant pressure meaning 30-50psi
2. NO my domestic does NOT drive my heating in any way type shape or form. Perhaps you should at least try before commenting. Just because you got a degree in retard hydronics with NO LIFE ACTUAL Experience doesnt make you a rocket scientist.
What does an open system - opening a tap to active flow or a pump kicks in to do the same has anything to do with the flow of water???????????????????????????????????????????
And YES it will and would and going to perform as same in a closed system. Did you NOT know that tankless actives with water movement, AKA THE FLOW - NOT pressure adding and exit point AKA THE TAP has nothing todo with performance of heating.
You just dont have the ability to test I comment from ACTUAL LIFE EXAMPLES
You came here because your way over your head.......remember?
Since you know more than Navien, and all the wealth of information here you will do fine on your own. Do us a favor though, if there are other family members please move them to another dwelling while you experiment with your combustion appliance.
I can see why no one wants to help you. That does not happen often around here.
Gordy
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Re: Viessmann Disappointment
I really think the owner is barking up the wrong tree.
Is Viessmann guilty of not following up on a complaint? Sure, I guess so..
Keep in mind, there is nothing wrong with the product.
If you hired a company to install an appliance for you and they damaged it or installed it incorrectly would you be calling the president of Maytag, leave them a voicemail and complain that they did not call you back?
Where is the installer in all this?
The OP has an issue with a contractor that they hired.
Rather than hold the installer accountable he is blaming the manufacture who has done nothing wrong other than selling boiler to installers just like every other manufacture.
Why isn't the post titled "Perry Disappointment"?
Sorry, I just don't get it...
Is Viessmann guilty of not following up on a complaint? Sure, I guess so..
Keep in mind, there is nothing wrong with the product.
If you hired a company to install an appliance for you and they damaged it or installed it incorrectly would you be calling the president of Maytag, leave them a voicemail and complain that they did not call you back?
Where is the installer in all this?
The OP has an issue with a contractor that they hired.
Rather than hold the installer accountable he is blaming the manufacture who has done nothing wrong other than selling boiler to installers just like every other manufacture.
Why isn't the post titled "Perry Disappointment"?
Sorry, I just don't get it...
Zman
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Re: Viessmann Disappointment
Of course if more manufacturers would monitor HeatingHelp they could avoid or at least de-escalate situations like this.
A simple, quick, polite phone call goes a long way still.
A simple, quick, polite phone call goes a long way still.
hot_rod
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Re: Viessmann Disappointment
I don't know? If I'm a good salesman, I'm as atypical as they come. Not once, never, have I asked for the sale. I never want to be that guy.Nothing happens until a sale is made, period.
Nobody in the entire chain makes a dollar if you get a no from the customer.
Somehow Stephen you are a much better salesperson than you believe yourself to be.
Listening to Richard T up above, if 99% of your market is forced air, and you are making a living in hydronics, you ARE a good salesperson.
There are many styles of sales, presenting the facts, your systems features and benefits, and then not talking is a powerful sales skill.
hot_rod
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Leaking Utica UB-90 Update
I have some great news to share and a few people to thank. Last winter I developed a crack in my 7 yr. old UB-90 and nursed it through a very cold winter by applying many different kinds of epoxy, many different times because none held for any great length of time.
I contacted Utica through Wallington Plumbing Supply, Wallington, NJ and started a warranty process that I have to be honest I really did not think was going to go anywhere - boy, was I wrong .
Utica approved the warranty request and I know we are not supposed to discuss pricing but let me just say I was very pleased with what they gave me in a check - on a 7 yr. old boiler.
Next, I sought out Rich McGrath and John Langan from Langan's Plumbing, Howell, NJ after reading and agreeing with many of their posts on Heatinghelp.com. I decided to stay with a Utica boiler, specifically an SSC-75 so I hired Rich & John to provide me with a heatloss calculation, drawing (basic flow diagram), material list and provide a startup visit - basically as consultants and I would do the installation.
Rich and John went above and beyond what I requested - they were always available to answer any questions I had and even stopped by to check on my progress.
Startup was completed yesterday and everything is working great. My favorite part is how quiet this system is in comparison to the old system,
Please note finishing touches are not complete - I have placards on order for Supply, Return, domestic water, natural gas pipes etc. I also am trying to located a high heat clear spray paint that won't discolor (darken) once heated. Need a new condensate pump and clean the diamond plate.
So once again I would like to thank Rich and John from Langan's Plumbing & Heating, Todd from ECR and Utica in general for standing behind their equipment and Tom Lynch from Wallington Plumbing Supply, Wallington, NJ.
I contacted Utica through Wallington Plumbing Supply, Wallington, NJ and started a warranty process that I have to be honest I really did not think was going to go anywhere - boy, was I wrong .
Utica approved the warranty request and I know we are not supposed to discuss pricing but let me just say I was very pleased with what they gave me in a check - on a 7 yr. old boiler.
Next, I sought out Rich McGrath and John Langan from Langan's Plumbing, Howell, NJ after reading and agreeing with many of their posts on Heatinghelp.com. I decided to stay with a Utica boiler, specifically an SSC-75 so I hired Rich & John to provide me with a heatloss calculation, drawing (basic flow diagram), material list and provide a startup visit - basically as consultants and I would do the installation.
Rich and John went above and beyond what I requested - they were always available to answer any questions I had and even stopped by to check on my progress.
Startup was completed yesterday and everything is working great. My favorite part is how quiet this system is in comparison to the old system,
Please note finishing touches are not complete - I have placards on order for Supply, Return, domestic water, natural gas pipes etc. I also am trying to located a high heat clear spray paint that won't discolor (darken) once heated. Need a new condensate pump and clean the diamond plate.
So once again I would like to thank Rich and John from Langan's Plumbing & Heating, Todd from ECR and Utica in general for standing behind their equipment and Tom Lynch from Wallington Plumbing Supply, Wallington, NJ.
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Re: Viessmann Disappointment
Once he hired the "professional", every aspect of that job became the professionals responsibility. If the homeowner must pull the permit, the professional should have made that clear to the homeowner, and work should not have proceeded until the permit was in place. He is the victim.
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