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Re: Preheat DHW with heat exchanger off hydronic baseboard zone
@EdTheHeaterMan you misunderstood me. I’m saying in a scenario where the options are: pay a fixed fee for gas and a variable fee for gas, if my only applicance is a gas water heater, then the fixed fee enters the equation. People are not considering ditching electricity, because it’s so intertwined in our lives, so the fixed part of the bill is irrelevant.What do you mean by the "Fixed"part of the bill? Is that the part that is not associates with the amount of energy used that is measured by the meter, or the part that is not the actual energy portion like the Generation Charge on the electric bill or the BGSS on the gas bill?
I believe that if you pay 100.00 for something then you pay 100.00 for it, regardless what you call the parts of the invoice. But that is just me. I grew up in the Fuel Oil business. We didn't charge $1.00 per gallon for fuel oil then add a delivery charge and a delivery tax and a energy tax and a loading rack fee, and a refinery surcharge and a overhead compensation fee. and a bulk plant operating cost. then give you a $400.00 bill for a 100 gallon delivery of fuel. Then try to convince you that you oil only cost $1.00 per gallon.
I believe that if I advertised
FUEL OIL FOR SALE $1.00 PER GALLON
plus shipping, handling and taxand everyone else was selling Fuel Oil for $4.00 per gallon, that I might end up in court over this marketing practice.
Just Sayin'
Re: Correcting the code inspector
A technique that I always use when dealing with an inspector, I learned from a woman. I was in a store discussing wallpaper with a woman and in making her point she said to me at the end of her thought, "Don't you think." Imagine that, a woman asking my opinion. I could have gotten down on my knees and kissed her feet, it made such an impact on me.
Asking an inspector for his opinion makes him an ally and will get you the most favorable outcome. Try it, it is magical words.
Asking an inspector for his opinion makes him an ally and will get you the most favorable outcome. Try it, it is magical words.
Re: Preheat DHW with heat exchanger off hydronic baseboard zone
Who’s using $400/year of gas for DHW? That seems extreme! No doubt electric resistance is often more expensive for DHW than gas, but not hundreds more.The same person who replaces the Gas with Electric and ends up paying triple using electric! I believe this is an example of missing the point
Hot water fan, is this more in line with your thinking?
If it takes $100.00 per year to make hot water with a gas water heater, and it takes $370.00 to make the same amount of hot water with an electric water heater,
Now I will wait for the next comment
Who’s using only $100/year of gas for DHW? That seems too low!
Re: Preheat DHW with heat exchanger off hydronic baseboard zone
Probably a tech company will figure it out and then offer it with in app subscriptions!
Ha! This is not a software problem, I hope they leave it to the experts. This was why I had the thought of using the mostly unused hydronic baseboards as a heat exchanger. I realize the baseboard elements don’t work great with minor temp differences, but I thought since plate heat exchangers do, maybe there was a chance of making a difference to the cold street temps.
The other issue besides the inefficiency and cost is that you’d be running cold water through your baseboards, effectively turning them into radiant cooling systems without a system for handling condensation. It could very effectively grow some mold!
Re: One More Question About Our Old Guy Plumber
Hello @gotgas,No, he did not think that was necessary because the town did not require it.
Was it pressure tested with air before the drywall went up ?

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Re: custom feet for our old wall-hung rads
lol awesome! so to answer your original question, yes I would offer them for the right price! as you can imagine, this was NOT an inexpensive project. I've had to keep the costs a secret from my wife. I hope she's not on this forumWe folk that hang out here on The WallWow, nice work. Are you offering them to the wall bangers?😉whats a wall-banger?
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Re: New House, Brain is melting
There is a T shirt with the phrase "How To Make a Small Fortune Raising Horses"........
smaller print "Start with a large fortune".
smaller print "Start with a large fortune".


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Re: This weeks case, the case of the boiler descaler
It ruined both boilers and several hundred feet of pipe. It plugged steam traps, control valves, strainers. The good news is I sold two new boilers.