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Re: What say you ? She’s steaming
It isn't an emergency but I would try to do it as soon as you can reasonable schedule it. You could probably get through the season on that if you absolutely had to but it isn't the recommended course of action.
Make sure the LWCO and water feeders work.
Re: G125BE burner conversion from blue flame to Riello
Aren't there only two air tube lengths for Riello?
...Get an OEM Riello for a G115/3, or /4 or /5 depending on what yours is. OEM is kind of important here because there are different blast tube lengths and insertion depths for each.
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BTW, it's a kinder, gentler oil burner world now-air tube vs. blast tube
Re: Moving steam return in one pipe system…images in thread
That is a single dry return. If it were to drop to the floor and run along the floor to the boiler, it needs that vent that is at the boiler to be moved to where it drops to the floor.
The condensate that forms in the radiators and in the main itself runs toward the end of the main because it is all pitched that way then it follows that dry return below the main back to the boiler.
The air in the main also follows that dry return toward the vent at the boiler where it is vented out.
You might want to get "We Got Steam Heat" to learn the basics of how steam systems work.
Re: Any ideas why this pump keep going bad?
Have you tried running a descaler through the boiler? If the pump cannot flow enough you are running it way up it's curve in an unhealthy condition.
You need to try something other than replacing pumps.
If you can isolate the boiler from the piping, add a few hose connections these descale kits work very well and quickly. No harm in flushing that boiler.
And it is cheaper than a new pump :)
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Re: pipe deteriorated on a diy manifold
Could be a water issue as well has the water been tested? Any Pics?
Sometimes you get green corrosion from flux. The valves shouldn't stick after 12 years on a closed loop system. Thats why I question water quality.
Re: What say you ? She’s steaming
Could be a flange gasket where the pipe covering blows up in size or a union but most likely the boiler. Flood it when it is cold as others have mentioned.
Re: What type of Vent on pipe near boiler in basement
@mattmich and @ethicalpaul , the other part of the equation is……. balance.
You want the steam to reach the ends of all the mains, not only quickly, but also at about the same time. Once you accomplish that, the steam is available at every tee where a radiator connects, and will rise to all the radiators at the same time. Balancing the heat in all the rooms is easy when you do it this way.
This is where "pipe math" comes in. Once we know how much air is in each main, we have our starting point for sizing vents. Occasionally we need to make changes from the original sizings, but having that starting point gets the job done faster.
Re: What type of Vent on pipe near boiler in basement
And @ethicalpaul and @mattmich I agree with you both! And for another look at it, Cedric is a fairly decent sized boiler (fires at 3.3 gph). The system is fairly decent sized (total of arund200 feet of 2 and 2.5 inch mains).
And the whole show is vented with a stable pressure of 2 ounces per square inch gauge by one Hoffman 75 and one Gorton #2…
My own way of figuring it is different — I look at pressure profiles rather than times — but the end result is the same.
Re: Water hammer in steam system
My concern over the copper is not based on the copper itself as it is probably fine. My concern over using copper is that it "points to" may have been installed by a "hot water plumber" versus a "steam fitter" who would likely stick to black pipe. Hot water plumber may not be aware of or take pipe pitch seriously
The change in diameter from Steel to Copper of the same size is not an issue.
Can't tell from pics but the copper pipe in the second picture running back to the riser probably is run flat as there is no swing joint. The hammer could be in that location. The bottom of the riser should have a swing joint and be pitched back to the boiler. You can get away with 1 pipe being flat but if you have 2 pipes flat that causes issues especially if the rises goes up a distance as you will get more condensate in the riser flowing down faster on a cold start
The Gorton is a larger vent maybe slowing the venting could calm things down and make it workable.
Do you know the size of the copper pipe and what the EDR of both radiators is? Looks like maybe 1 1/4" which is good for 55EDR 1" is good for 25EDR?


