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Re: Need Recommendations on point of use electric water.heaters

How about a compromise? A tank you can fit in the loft, run it hot and mix down to 120F, and supply it with water from the remote propane water heater. The kitchen and bathroom sinks will get hot water quickly from the small tank, and the remote propane unit will ensure your guests won’t run our during a period of high demand.

Robert_25

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Re: Enerjet boiler, flame in burner tubes

Try switching to a slow-opening gas control like a VR8200H or a step-opening one like a VR8200C. The old one might have been one of these, but you couldn't see it operate so you wouldn't know.

Steamhead

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Re: Which burner motor do you think is best and most reliable and easy to work on?

I love and use all 3.
A NFL analogy if I may

Beckett is the Larry Czonka (Dolphins/Giants #39 1970s Greatest Fullback Ever!) physical.beast that ALWAYS moves foward, never gets hurt or misses a game. A Bruiser that took 3 or 4 Average NFL toughguys to take him down, or One Mike Curtis or **** Butkus.

Carlin, The John Riggins (#44 Redskins/Giants 1970-1980s Legendary Fullback..superfast for a big guy (All American Sprinter in HS and College) excited to watch..busted out for huge gains...For the Hawgs...A lliving legend of the 1980s.

Riello The Walter Payton of burners #34 for the Bears mid 70s to late 80s..Finicky, super agile, high strung like a Thoroughbred. could leap like a Gazelle, Sprint like a cheetah 🐆, and cut on a dime like a
Larry Kelly Ocala Cutting Pony (for you cowboys and horse 🐎 people). Sweetness as we lovingly call him was a clean living quiet gentleman unlike the other two party animals (hey.don't knock it till ya tried.it! Ha ha). He rarely missed a game.

All three are All Pro Hall of Famers who not only got the job done, but delighted us along the way. All three burners are excellent and I recommend all. The Riello DOES require a bit more skill, tweaking and patience, but once you dial their oil and gas burners in....YOU NEVER touch them again..Carlin & Beckett are ready to rock out of the box..99% of the time.

I picked Riello out of high regard, but also because I couldn't choose all. Which I would.. you can't lose with any. All winners. Mad Dog

Mad Dog_2

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Re: Do you prefer the wool felt or the white fiber heating oil filter cartridge?

I like the Garber spin on but old generals were a work horse for a Century. That being said, Working on fuel whether its Natural gas, Diesel, Propane, #2 is DEADLY SERIOUS work...life or death sometimes! This is NOT for the DIY or handyman. At a minimum, you need a Semester of BOCES
Class on oil and gas ⛽ burners. This is NOT hobby. Don't wanna see you or your fambly get hurt, man. Fuel oil leaks even small ones are an environmental hazard. You can have fun all day repiping the hot water or steam piping in your house, but combustion is on a much higher level of Competency and risk. Be careful. Mad Dog

Mad Dog_2

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Re: Is it possible I just cant get enough radiant floor output and will require supplemental heating?

You could use a mixing valve with an operator that responds to outdoor temperature ODR, that way you get close to constant circulation thru the radiators, the best way to run any heat emitter is constant circulation, and vary supply temperature.
Numerous valves available to do this, tekmar, Taco, Belimo, others.

I like this idea. Does it make sense to run the floors at a fixed SWT (to max out their output) and run the rads at variable SWT so they compensate for increased heat loss at lower outdoor temp? If thats true, I wonder if it even makes sense to run the an ODR on the boiler itself. The included hydrostat control has thermal targeting that adjusts the boiler temp based on thermostat activity.

Only problem I see is that I was planning to run the upstairs rads (no floor heat) at max temp. If I went this way, I might need a separate pump for actual high temp. Though I was planning to zone the upstairs rads so maybe it would work pushing them all through the variable. This all gets really complicated

ThatF_inGuyInNY

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Re: Rumors on peerless

Here's the truth directly from Peerless this morning:
They are producing the 63-04 and will continue to do so. It will not be discontinued.

Erin Holohan Haskell

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Re: CH set to 170 boiler doesn't reach it

Check the sensors with an ohm meter, you could have one out of range.
The troubleshooting pages explain how to get into installer mode to read any faults. The control will know why it didn’t reach the operating condition. Could be too high of a delta, high flue temperature or other issues.

You either have to sit in front of it, catch it in the act, could be the call for heat drops off before it hits the programmed temperature?
or pull the info from the data logging function deep in the control menu, the history mode.

hot_rod

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Re: Suspected leak from radiator steam pipe elbow joint

Remember this is a steam pipe. As the steam leaks out, it is lighter than air and will go UP before it hits the wood floor or metal pipe and condense on that surface. If enough condensation accumulates, that can cause a drip of water to stain that pipe as water is heavier than air and gravity will cause the water to drip DOWN. The space behind the basement drywall and the floor cavity ware super humidified for years since that was a very small steam leak.

Which reminds me of a story:
This church in Cape May needed a new steam boiler and I got the job. Removed a Mills that was well over 70 years old. Replaced it with a Weil McLain 78. After operating for the first month, I got a no heat call one Sunday morning. When I arrived the water feeder had stopped feeding water. The display meter read 999. I reset it, water flowed, and they had heat. But 999 gallons in one month was a gallon or two more than I expected for that amount of run time.

On Monday afternoon I returned to find where all this water was going. As it turns out there was dry return that came from the south hall wing of the system. That return was buried under sand in a very tight crawlspace. once I located the return pipe is discovered that 60% of the bottom ot that steel pipe was missing. Just rotted away. I also noticed that the floor supports and the floor boards for the office and bathrooms just above that buried pipe were all pressure treated lumber. That told me that this return pipe was leaking steam for some time.

You see, I figures that the floor in the Pastor's office was getting a little spongy and that one of the members of the church, probably a carpenter or builder, offered to fix the problem. Once the carpet was removed, they found all this rotted wood. The bad wood was removed and replaced with new lumber. That church was over 70 years old, so if it took 70 years for that wood to rot out, then regular lumber would last 70 more years , Right?

But it did not last that long. and in a few years the floor was rotting away again. Wow, that is odd. Well we know how to solve that problem. We will use pressure treated lumber. That stuff won't rot away any tome soon. Some time after that, this HVAC/Boiler guy happened to stumble across this leaking return pipe that was allowing the steam from that pipe to find its way thru the sand and super humidify the tiny crawlspace above it. Once the return pipe was replaced the boiler only used less than 1 gallon per month for make up water. I think that amount of make up water is acceptable.

The rotted wood above the elbow in the first picture reminded me of the Pastor's pressure treated floor.