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Re: Radiant Floor Heating System – Is a 10°F Single Space - Same Zone Temperature Difference Acceptable?
Assuming you are referring to air temperature, no, that is not at all acceptable. A transfer plate type system will require a higher water temperature to put out a similar BTU per linear foot as concrete, so it's quite probable that the installers combined the two into one and do not have enough tubing/plates and/or are using too low of a water temp for the plate system. Either way, this is a design/install error and needs to be corrected by the designer/installer. They may be able to split it into two zones or even balance the flow to get each system to work as intended, but they may need to turn it into a dual temp system or even tear the floor apart and add more tubing/plates.
Upon reading this again, you refer to "thermostats" and "sensors" as if plural. If there are multiple sensors/stats, there can not be just one zone. Something seems to have been lost in translation.
GroundUp
Re: Mechanics Institute is Now Accepting Applications for the Fall 2025 Semester
This is the Finishing School in our region....Golden opportunity.....Mad Dog
Re: Copper to Pex in hydronic heating for DIY
In my opinion, you, as a first time pipe-sweater, have a far far greater chance of permanent success with sharkbites than you do with a torch.
Re: Main vent questions - newbie
Two #1s will likely be adequate. IMO you’ll probably see more success speeding up the venting on the far radiators and slowing it down on the near radiators than you will going crazy with the main venting.
Like others on here I’ve found the Big Mouth vents leak a lot of steam and I removed mine because I was losing 3/4 inch or so of water per week. Now I have two MOM #1s on each of my mains and lose basically nothing.
Tezak
Re: Literature on Geothermal
@DCContrarian it helps to use the numbers of the project.
Total pipe length 3400'
Installed @12" OC for a field total of 3400 SQ FT.
If we are to consider the storage capacity within a foot of the tubing, that equals 6800 cubic feet.
Wet clay ( and boy was it wet when I put the bulk in February!) weighs 110 pounds per cubic foot.
So my fields have 748,000 pounds of wet clay within a foot of the tubing.
It does indeed have a capacity of about a half a BTU per pound, and cooling it from 50 to 40 would yield 3.7 million BTU.
But that is not how it works. It does have great conductivity and will keep equalizing out to a larger extent than that foot either way.
@GW I will play with alternating fields manually. I have an odd number of loops ,7.
Each of the loops is a 10 pass by 45' or so, and separated by it's neighbor by 4 feet or so. There is also a 10' wide slot I had to leave out for the side sewer.
This is important, because our observations with my brother's field, a big 30x60 with 1800 feet of tubing in the 1800SF would cold soak pretty badly deep into the season. His soils were drier and less dense and not good conductors as @DCContrarian was talking about. We did not get much edge effect and that large contiguous field got below freezing by the end of the season.
I will manually run 3 fields that are separated by idle fields and the 4' and that 10'. That will be for the very low demand fall shoulder. I will watch for the differential of entering to leaving loop water and when it drops below 10 degrees it is a good time to change up.
Then I will dog off those 3 and run the other 4. I won't know how well it will work until we get into it, but I am significantly overlooped. The common conversion is 600' of 3/4" @ 12" OC per ton. I have 3400' and a 3 ton manual J.
The idea is to let the first 3 recover based on good conductivity and run with that. I may have to tap all 7 at the worst of it. My heating degree day is 23 F and cooling degree day is 79, so yes it is very mild compared to most. The straits of Juan De Fuca are only a few miles away and moderate the temperatures considerably.
skyking1
Re: Literature on Geothermal
I doubt you will be at design load 31K? for more than a week or two per year. So the load on the field lessens. You can find temperature data for your location online, as an example for upstate NY. Design day there is 0-5°
I think moisture content of the soil has a lot to do with transfer, even in clay.
Really a GEO field is basically a giant solar collector/ storage. Suns energy will drive into the ground to recover the field also.
hot_rod
Re: Literature on Geothermal
It is 3/4"
I do want heat capacity as well as great conductivity. Gravels and sands are poor in comparison.
skyking1
