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Re: How dangerous is this high pressure?
When was the last time someone operated the relief valve? It is supposed to be done annually. You might want to get a 30 PSI relief valve while you are picking up that test gauge. When you operate the relief valve, you may find that is does not work. Then you will have a replacement all ready. You might want to read the word that I put a red box around. I believe they put that word there for a reason. But I might be wrong!


Re: Flushing 2nd floor hydronic system loop to purge air
Gentlemen, can't thank you all enough for the insights and push, even academically, to resolve this. OK, my take. Agree with Delcrossv, height of 2nd floor, 20ft close enough, yields 8.65 psi as a couple pressure. But agree that once you swing the Taco valve handle to 'fast fill' you're by passing the regulated function of the valve and introduce full city flow and pressure. Have no gauge on incoming city water source but Suffolk County NY advises roughly 45-50 psi. So, once city pressure is introduced the new pressure introduced to the 2nd floor, or 1st floor, loop is the 50psi. OK, with all that said, so by introducing the 50psi to the system, why does the 2nd floor loop pop the relief valve and the 1st floor does not? Something ain't right here. Since city pressure is NOT introduced to the loop until the exit drain valve is already open, there should be no build up of pressure in the loop to the 50psi level unless the drain valve/or a restriction exist in the loop. Relief valve is functioning properly activating close to 30 psi. Might be weakened by now from repeated popping. OK, my plan of attack here. Gonna take and send pics of near boiler piping for all to see. BTW, my boiler has the same configuration of the one posted by 'Fix it with Zim' air purging tutorial on Youtube. Next, goona re-purge 1st floor loop and not the reading on the boiler pressure gauge so we better understand what pressure is being applied to the boiler once full city pressure has been introduced. Then will close up 1st floor zone and move to 2nd floor zone. Will remove and inspect exit gate drain valve for defects as a defective partially opening gate valve may just be the root cause of all this annoyance. Is it too early to hit the Bourbon yet??? Keep you amigos posted on finding. 1MM Thanks
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Re: Another discussion about steam boiler sizing
As I'm a newcomer to this forum and know nothing about steam heat except what I've read here, I did a little Googling to help me understand pickup factors for steam. And I found this:
https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/149940/pickup-factor-help-me-understand
Several familiar names on that thread. Seems you guys have been debating this for 10 years now!
And from that same year (2014) was this explanation from Dan Holohan, which included a discussion of piping losses and pickup factors:
https://heatinghelp.com/systems-help-center/boiler-ratings-explained/
Maybe Dan needs to be prevailed on to come out of retirement, however briefly, to settle the debate...
There's a lot of things that have been debated a whole lot longer than 10 years.

ChrisJ
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Re: Old NYC radiator help
Sounds like the little radiator is back-pitched and the condensate's not draining out of it. I would lift the end away from the pipe connection slightly to tilt it toward the pipe. Put some quarters under those feet. Then I'd find a (slower) steam vent with the smallest hole in it, like a Gorton #4 or Hoffman #40. The Hoffman vent best handles the water problem. That will slow the entry of steam and slow down the condensate production. Make sure the valve is fully open.
The big radiator needs its valve fully open and a slower vent.
That's about all you can do from your apartment. Remember that messing with this stuff can get you hurt or killed. This is really the landlord's job.
New York landlords concerned and caring is second to only their generosity. Tell him your problem and I'm certain he'll assign a staff expert to solve it quickly. He'll appreciate your efforts to improve his property.
The big radiator needs its valve fully open and a slower vent.
That's about all you can do from your apartment. Remember that messing with this stuff can get you hurt or killed. This is really the landlord's job.
New York landlords concerned and caring is second to only their generosity. Tell him your problem and I'm certain he'll assign a staff expert to solve it quickly. He'll appreciate your efforts to improve his property.
Re: Salvaged Radiator, cleaning and prep help?
Hope those Chinese wrenches didn't hurt you. By now you know you have to cut those fittings out.
Re: Help with finding gas valve
Better??? I just hit most of the buttons, not sure any of them went through. Note to self, be careful not to hit wrong icon, especially on phone with cracked screen!It works just like this:

WMno57
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Re: How to relocate the steam vent to the proper place
Correct, the radiator should already be tapped with a plug in that exact location on the opposite side. More work than simply tapping, just an option
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Re: Help with finding gas valve
Better??? I just hit most of the buttons, not sure any of them went through. Note to self, be careful not to hit wrong icon, especially on phone with cracked screen!

