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Re: Gage Description..
Thatcher Furnace Company. So, a furnace company made boilers? Or did boilers used to be called furnaces?maybe they made roofs

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Re: Would you hire this Spammer to fix/replace your Boiler?
2000 billable hours is what you tell techs you are riding and flogging. It comes along with "this company isn't turning a profit". I spent 2 years at an 8-10 truck company pulling in flat rate and fixed bids way over the stated calculated hourly and every meeting we were told the company was losing money. 24 months of straight loss is running a charity and it wasn't true. Top heavy overhead and with two to three $100K trucks a year built, it's a laughable dishonesty. There's a lot of head games in that 2000 hours talk. On the flip side the logic for profitability is in there.

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Re: New 3 floor NCB-240 Setup Using 3/4" zone valves.
Thanks again @EdTheHeaterMan so much helpful info. I took a look at the performance data again, and the overnight 9.5 hours was a solid -25C to -28C ( around-13F) . when I looked at the run time specifically for those hours ONLY. I came out with the following:
The furnace ran : 3.26 hours on LOW fire , and 1.05hrs at high fire. The math worked out to 275,000 BTU's for those 9.5 hours
So at those temps and run times that seemed to yield a more moderate 28,947 BTU/h , and when divided by the sq footage a more modest 9 BTU/sq ft. so, I feel like aiming for "low teens" BTU sq ft. Is prob the right call here?
I already have had the NCB-240 installed for over a year with only a primary loop, so the boiler decision is a done deal, and you are right, we got that size for the DHW. I was looking in to this solely to decide if I could use 1" pipe and get the BTU's necessary.
I shall wait for you to blow another hole in my logic in short order
The furnace ran : 3.26 hours on LOW fire , and 1.05hrs at high fire. The math worked out to 275,000 BTU's for those 9.5 hours
So at those temps and run times that seemed to yield a more moderate 28,947 BTU/h , and when divided by the sq footage a more modest 9 BTU/sq ft. so, I feel like aiming for "low teens" BTU sq ft. Is prob the right call here?
I already have had the NCB-240 installed for over a year with only a primary loop, so the boiler decision is a done deal, and you are right, we got that size for the DHW. I was looking in to this solely to decide if I could use 1" pipe and get the BTU's necessary.
I shall wait for you to blow another hole in my logic in short order

Re: problems with Triangle tube piping
Agree with the above commenters. An "organized mess". Strange looking. Visually...well laid out.
Hydronically...notsomuch. Black iron is a strange medium to express one's self. The wiring is "veryfine" too. I gotta walk-away from this one. Creepy.
Hydronically...notsomuch. Black iron is a strange medium to express one's self. The wiring is "veryfine" too. I gotta walk-away from this one. Creepy.
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Re: Would you hire this Spammer to fix/replace your Boiler?
I was sent to a Maio system brain washi..... I mean flat rate sales seminar in LA, late 90's. It was a valuable experience viewing it positively. At the least, I learned a lot about how good truck organization could be from seeing a Brazil Hackney truck. George and Maurice were hero's to a couple of my bosses who weren't yet offering any commission cuts. I got my license just as they started putting big teeth on the wet behind the ears techs and the mod/cons were taking market. Making the phone ring was key and the internet changed all that. Yellow pages for what? On call beepers! Now you're not legit unless all techs wear patches that remind customers what country we are in while they are purchasing perceived value with picture time Ipads.

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Re: Gage Description..
Pics of the Dinosaur.. As a retired older man converting to gas is way out of my budget.. I couldn't believe what I was qouted on a boiler and water heater install... Sorry for ranting
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Re: Would you hire this Spammer to fix/replace your Boiler?
Ad agencies know what consumers respond to
Back in the early 1990s I visited a George Brazil shop in So Cal. He was one of the first to put full size pretty boys on his box trucks
the truck decals were reflective material
when they drove into neighborhoods dogs would bark at this giant glowing male model plumber with a toolbox in hand floating down the street.
could be the same guy, he is ageless
They had to tone done the reflective man decal😉
Back in the early 1990s I visited a George Brazil shop in So Cal. He was one of the first to put full size pretty boys on his box trucks
the truck decals were reflective material
when they drove into neighborhoods dogs would bark at this giant glowing male model plumber with a toolbox in hand floating down the street.
could be the same guy, he is ageless
They had to tone done the reflective man decal😉

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Re: Would you hire this Spammer to fix/replace your Boiler?
Looks to me like a Massachusetts modeling agency hired this model. Area code (978)

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