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Re: Return changes elevation and other oddities.

I happen to have a few small 3/4" F&Ts that are in great shape but for failed thermostatics. A Tunstall capsule and some gasket material and we're good. I really appreciate all the guidance.

Re: Air to Water Heat Pump - Ever installed or used one? Need advice and recommendations

Efficiency Vermont has a list of all air-to-water heat pumps being sold in the US:

https://qualifiedproducts.efficiencyvermont.com/evt/products/browse?search.searchGroup=Heat%20Pumps%20-%20Air%20to%20Water&search.IncomeQualified=False

In your climate you want something with vapor injection for cold weather performance. You can pretty much tell by comparing the column with the 5F capacity with the nominal capacity, with vapor injection it will be close to 90% and without it will be 50-75%.

Re: How do you know your boiler is done for? And how do you plan for replacement?

How big is a box? Actually, that's a good life for a boiler — but a well cared for one, particularly an older one, can last longer than that. Sometimes a lot longer. On the other hand, a more modern, more efficient boiler — with lighter and thinner castings — operating on poorer water quality, or with leaks in the system, may only last half as long.

Re: How do you know your boiler is done for? And how do you plan for replacement?

Steam. You're in luck… it's rare for a boiler to fail catastrophically (piping can, but rarely a boiler). Usually they will give you some warning — sometimes a lot of warning — and what you will see is an increase in water usage. You may also see steam escaping from the chimney.

Now this isn't really good — but the good news is that steam systems can run on absurdly low pressure, so even if you are losing a lot of water and the leak is really gross, you can still run the old thing and get enough time to organise a replacement.

You don't really want to do that if the leak is from the steam side to the boiler room — the humidity can do some damage — but even then it's not an instant no heat situation.

Now you can evaluate what size boiler you need pretty much any time, at your leisure. That's because steam boilers are sized to match the connected radiation, and that — usually — isn't going to change. So take some time any time and write down what you have for radiators and their ratings and add them up.

Replacing a boiler is an excellent time to work on odd piping — but keep in mind that all steam boilers have a recommended minimum piping arrangement for the near boiler piping, so you are really only concerned about weird things elsewhere.

It doesn't hurt to establish a relationship with a good steam boiler man in advance. You need one anyway, to maintain what you have correctly. Might as well start now… but there's no need to get a quote on a replacement until you need one. Prices — and available equipment — just change too fast.

Re: We Got Steam Heat - wish I never read this book

I have a question on how they did it? How did they get sufficient duct size through 2x4 walls? 3 1/2 x 14 1/2 is probably good for a single vent. They would have needed to open up all the walls on the first floor………….to get to the second floor…………???

The basement probably needed 20" x 20" mains…………….???

LRCCBJLRCCBJ

Re: HPWH, learning curve

If your attic is over 145F you could just put a tank up there, no need for heating it.

Re: We Got Steam Heat - wish I never read this book

"You wouldn't even know a diamond if you held it in your hand...." Steely Dan

When the vast majority of Plumbing & Heating contractors do marginal work, at best, we that don't, have to justify ourselves to THAT Lowest Common Denominator....very frustrating, demoralizing & aggravating. Mad Dog

Re: We Got Steam Heat - wish I never read this book

Given the OP's comments, @JohnNY , I'd say you dodged a bullet on that one. None of us need clients of that calibre.

Re: We Got Steam Heat - wish I never read this book

I'd say the big reason for the popularity of forced air is that air conditioning is essentially free once you've installed the ductwork.

Re: HPWH, learning curve

I don’t really understand the mocking or vitriol against this tech and us “cult members”.

I hope you appreciate that I was being glib with my "cult" comment. I am a full-fledged member of the cult and always on the lookout to lure in unsuspecting new members.