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Re: New Century House with Two Pipe Steam - Questions
The only way to permanently remove water trapped in a supply or return is to repitch the pipe so the water can drain, either back to the main or onwards towards the return.
Re: Tiger Loop
One minor note tiger loops are all most universal in europe on oil burners for a few reason being those europeans ar a bit brighter . Ends any issue of return line leaks ,prevents constant filtering of fuel your not burning and prevents circulation of fuel that is not being burned form picking up temperature and forming condensate in above ground fuel tanks . Not to mention that it reduces any chance of vacuum being pulled which can greatly effect any flame retention oil burner .Burners operating at high pump pressure are effected when the burner starts to pull vacuum. Personally over the years ever oil burner i ve installed that had a 2 pipe system was converted to a single pipe and a tiger loop was installed plain and simple especially any in ground and or above ground outdoor tank. Its a win for all involved . A 2 pipe oil system w a inground tanks is a issue waiting to occur$ and one thing you will not see in the father land for sure . also forget about the vacuum gauge they come w they usually leak and suck air .
peace and good luck ,
clammy
Re: Oil furnace issue
My brother is retired now but he lives in Richboro PA in Bucks County. This is the company he built F T YOUNG Associates 24/7 Emergency Service Available Call 215.357.4300. Not sure if the new owner goes to your location but it would not hurt to ask.
I think there is a contributor in your area that goes by @STEVEusaPA . I don't know for sure if he is even still working but he knows his stuff.
In Schuylkill County Pa I can’t believe that Electric Heat is less expensive that oil heat. And if the boiler can hold water to make hot water, you can certainly heat your home with it after the bad radiator is removed, repaired, or replaced.
Re: Oil furnace issue
I live close to you, there are some good plumbers in the area i can recommend to you. I just scrapped a 1975 efm a lot like that because the base was bad. If you only use it for hot water I would suggest putting in a hot water heater instead of putting money toward the repair of a system you're using for it's secondary function anyway.
Re: Oil furnace issue
Yes, in fact that's the best way to do it because at some point someone will probably want to put another radiator back there. New cast-iron radiators are expensive, but used ones are generally available.
bburd
Re: Oil furnace issue
you need a plumber with basic competence, some are just sink installers that don't know how to work with black pipe but any good plumber will know how to do it.
Re: Oil furnace issue
It wouldn't take much work to disconnect and cap those pipes on either end of the radiator. Any competent plumber could do it.
bburd
Re: Oil furnace issue
hot water boilers only need a low water cutout in most jurisdictions if there are emitters below the boiler. in theory the aquastat should shut it down at whatever setpoint it is set to but if the block is dry or only partially filled the aquastat may not see the highest temps in the boiler. it is not the best of ideas to be running it without the ability of the system to hold pressure.
Re: Identifying Mystery WM Boiler
A little refresher
Mystery WM Boiler? — Heating Help: The Wall
reggi
Re: Unraveling Intermittent Boiler Flame Failures: The Ultimate Troubleshooting Guide for Technicians
My first 13 years in the business I did nothing but burners. Flame failure probably caused my anxiety issues LOL.
A few examples: (you never forget these once you had them)
Power Flame burner in a Town hall Honeywell R4140 control with lead sulphide scanner. Locked out every day. Every time maintenance reset it it started. This went on for months. I went to the job after work and pulled up a chair. The burner ran long cycles. Finally I saw it. It had to run a long time on a cold day to really get the combustion chamber hot. The scanner was picking up hot refractory on pre purge and giving a false flame signal locking out the control. Changing to a UV scanner fixed it.
Another Power Flame locking out. Around 1980 the programmers changed from a Fireye 5022 mechanical realy to a D-5022 solid state programmer. The older controls if a limit opened (like a bouncing water level) the control would simply shut the burner down and recycle. With the newer controls you would get a lockout. This job had been locking out for months. Pulled up a chair again. This building had a T87 stat pulling in a RA89a relay to start the burner. The burner ran fine till 9:00 am when the workers came in (office building). All at once the relay started to chatter. The thermostat was mounted on the wall next to the rest room doors. heavy door with a bad closer. Every time the dor slammed shut it rattled the mercury in the stat chattering the relay and locking out the burner. It only did this with the room up to temp wher the mercury was close to tipping.
We had 3 burners we serviced in Pittsfield, Ma. 2 hour drive. 2 were new burners and one was existing. All on 3 different jobs. All had been running ok and the cold weather hit and they all started locking out. We eventually basically tore all three burners apart looking for issues and found nothing. One was an oil burner and two were gas/oil and the gas oil was locking out on either fuel. All had gas pilots.
I decided it had to be a pilot issue.
I replace all the standard ignition transformers (6000) volt secondary with new ones rated 8500 volts. 120v to all burners was fine.
Fixed all three jobs. Talking with Berkshire Gas they wer "Gas shaving" adding propane to the natural gas to keep the pressure up in cold weather. Propane is more dense and harder to light.

