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Re: Steam Radiator ID
"Pierce". It was made by the Pierce, Butler & Pierce company of Syracuse, NY. It's a standard column-type radiator that was made up till about 1926.
Re: Viessmann 4-Way Mixing Valve
do you even need a mixing valve, what temperature does the fin tube need to meet the load? Run the boiler on reset for the required radiant temperature, DHW on priority
If you could run just one lower temperature, below 130 the boiler efficiency jumps. Beef up the fin tube to run at the radiant SWT
I think you can plug a port on a 4 way, but it will require some repiping. Doesn’t that boiler have multiple temperature output in the control?
If you could run just one lower temperature, below 130 the boiler efficiency jumps. Beef up the fin tube to run at the radiant SWT
I think you can plug a port on a 4 way, but it will require some repiping. Doesn’t that boiler have multiple temperature output in the control?
hot_rod
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Re: Loop seal on condensate tank??
Any traps that drop into the wet return upstream of the loop seal should be vented....a vent installed after the traps. Weather you need multiple vents or one vent depends how it is piped.
They make boiler feed tanks wher you dig out the floor and they sit flush wit the top of the floor. That is probably what should have been used unless the condensate pipe can be raised to that the air removal can be done by the tank vent which is usually the case.
They make boiler feed tanks wher you dig out the floor and they sit flush wit the top of the floor. That is probably what should have been used unless the condensate pipe can be raised to that the air removal can be done by the tank vent which is usually the case.
Re: Mixing under-floor radiant with wall panels okay?
What temperature are you running to the radiant?
You can run up to 3 panels on a 1/2" circuit, generally. Depends on the size.
Any idea how much additional you need to add?
If so, use the output chart, at the temperature you can supply to see how much BTU/ hr they will add.
Maybe place another manifold at the boiler and run to the radiators.
If you want each radiator on its own TRV, consider a homerun. 1/2" pex to each radiator
You can run up to 3 panels on a 1/2" circuit, generally. Depends on the size.
Any idea how much additional you need to add?
If so, use the output chart, at the temperature you can supply to see how much BTU/ hr they will add.
Maybe place another manifold at the boiler and run to the radiators.
If you want each radiator on its own TRV, consider a homerun. 1/2" pex to each radiator
hot_rod
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Re: Low Loss Header vs Closely Spaced Tee's for efficiency
Depending on the llh you chose, you can get multiple important functions, air separation, dirt separation, magnetic separation in addition to hydraulic
The blending of the temperature, if any, is based on the difference in the two flow rates. The size of the container doesn’t change that
That temperature blend happens in either case. A sep does add a bit of buffer also. Sometimes the sep hold more water than the boiler😚
The blending of the temperature, if any, is based on the difference in the two flow rates. The size of the container doesn’t change that
That temperature blend happens in either case. A sep does add a bit of buffer also. Sometimes the sep hold more water than the boiler😚
hot_rod
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Re: What is the future of Hydronics?
define hydronics 
For me any fluid based system, boilers, solar, radiant, chilled water cooling, snowmelt, geo thermal, district systems, probably even put steam in that group. Domestic water recirculation is a hydronic loop, flow rate established by the heat loss of the loop.
Power plants need hydronics for cooling.
Commercial buildings will always have the need for hydronics to heat, cool, create DHW. VRV is not going to talk away all that market.
A2WHP are breathing some new life into hydronics, being fluid based systems. I would certainly get up to speed on that technology, both the unit itself and the proper applications for them.
Boiler sales have plunged around the world, but all the major boiler manufacturers are putting 10's of millions into HP development. Keep an eye on the players and opportunties in that technology.
For me any fluid based system, boilers, solar, radiant, chilled water cooling, snowmelt, geo thermal, district systems, probably even put steam in that group. Domestic water recirculation is a hydronic loop, flow rate established by the heat loss of the loop.
Power plants need hydronics for cooling.
Commercial buildings will always have the need for hydronics to heat, cool, create DHW. VRV is not going to talk away all that market.
A2WHP are breathing some new life into hydronics, being fluid based systems. I would certainly get up to speed on that technology, both the unit itself and the proper applications for them.
Boiler sales have plunged around the world, but all the major boiler manufacturers are putting 10's of millions into HP development. Keep an eye on the players and opportunties in that technology.
hot_rod
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Re: Weird water hammer in one radiator
Shutting off steam radiators doesn't increase efficiency. Your boiler is making the same volume of steam regardless of what valves are open until the thermostat is satisfied. If you want to increase efficiency that's an exercise in insulating distribution piping, adjusting/adding air vents/traps where appropriate, examining near boiler piping for the creation of the driest steam possible, and evaluating boiler/radiator/distribution pipe sizing relative to heating loads; listed in increasing order of work required.
By decreasing the total volume of the system relative to the size of the boiler you very well could be making the system less efficient by oversizing the boiler for the connected loaded.
With the other radiators shut off your boiler is plowing a greater volume of steam into that radiator that otherwise would be more evenly distributed throughout the system, thereby increasing the density of the steam, which makes it wetter, which leads to more condensation in the radiator, which leads to noises made when the condensate is trying to coexist with steam.
By decreasing the total volume of the system relative to the size of the boiler you very well could be making the system less efficient by oversizing the boiler for the connected loaded.
With the other radiators shut off your boiler is plowing a greater volume of steam into that radiator that otherwise would be more evenly distributed throughout the system, thereby increasing the density of the steam, which makes it wetter, which leads to more condensation in the radiator, which leads to noises made when the condensate is trying to coexist with steam.
Waher
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Re: Steam Radiator ID
https://heatinghelp.com/heating-museum/pierce-radiators/By that time the column-type radiators were superseded by the large-tube type.
Re: Radiator in unfinished attic
Our 1860's farmhouse in Michigan had a large domestic water tank in the attic that was filled by a ram-pump placed in a flowing stream 1/4 mile away. Tank maintained a constant outflow. The house also had cisterns in the cellar that were filled by the wooden rain gutters for soft water. Hand pumps at the sinks for cistern water.
psb75
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Re: Replacing Oil Boiler with Gas Boiler in CT
Reasons for propane over oil. 1. Propane can be sized and controlled better for small loads. 2. Propane boilers can be more readily available in condensing boilers. 3. Propane can easily be a combi boiler and occupy much less real estate than any oil options. 4. Many propane options are not club only boilers. I hate products I am expected to be a member of a secret society to install or get parts for.
Wall hung
Lochinvar combi of 199 mbtu with the heating limited to your heat load and set to a proper outdoor reset would be a great option. Any smaller would be disappointing to anyone besides the most frugal of hot water users with New England ground water temperatures.
Wall hung
Lochinvar combi of 199 mbtu with the heating limited to your heat load and set to a proper outdoor reset would be a great option. Any smaller would be disappointing to anyone besides the most frugal of hot water users with New England ground water temperatures.
