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Re: Necessity is the Mother of Invention...

I was thinking you needed the machine to do it on a curve, you can do it albeit rather tediously on a straight section with a brake. Now that i think about it more, i bet the curved pittsburgh is done on a flat piece that is rolled in to a curve after and the 90 that locks in to it is made around the curve with something like a hand seamer. i don't know if it is a regional thing, but this is how most ductwork is made around here.
There is a machine that can form that on the edge of a piece of sheetmetal with a series of rollers sort of like a continuous gutter machine.

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Re: Necessity is the Mother of Invention...
Just cut the factory ends off & reflare them. (That's what the groove in the tubing cutter wheel is for! I didn't know!!) If you take a look at the factory end & a flare that you've made, you'll see what I'm talking about.
You can braze them in if you want, but that's a lot more work—unless you live in Chicago. I hear they're not allowed to use flares, or weren't. Do flow N₂, Never had a problem with clogging the screens with that.

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Re: Necessity is the Mother of Invention...
I'd be super concerned about people reaming the copper if that were the case.

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Re: Necessity is the Mother of Invention...
Even with N2 there is the potential of copper oxide forming. Minis DO NOT have the safety of filter driers just several very fine screens. It doesn’t take much to plug one of these up but is a nightmare figuring out what one or two ARE plugged!mattmia2 said:why not? if you actually trickle N2 or CO2 as required and heat sink it before the unit i don't see a difference between the 2.No brazing on minis!Mad Dog_2 said:Oh yeah? Leakers? Reflare em or braze em? Mad Dog

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Re: Necessity is the Mother of Invention...
When you asked about this i was going to say you should make friends with a machine that can roll a pittsburgh but looks like you won't need that.

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Re: Necessity is the Mother of Invention...
why not? if you actually trickle N2 or CO2 as required and heat sink it before the unit i don't see a difference between the 2.No brazing on minis!Mad Dog_2 said:Oh yeah? Leakers? Reflare em or braze em? Mad Dog

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Re: Necessity is the Mother of Invention...
The factory flares are only there to hold the nut on during shipping—& they fail at that from time to time. Since you're supposed to discard them & use the nuts from the unit anyway, I dunno why they even put them on.

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Re: Necessity is the Mother of Invention...
How did you keep the powder coat on the grill on that lennox from peeling and rusting?

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Re: Necessity is the Mother of Invention...
Cut out and replace the factory flares on that line set!

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Re: Magnetic filter on a steam boiler water heater?
Magnetic filters are great for one specific class of contaminants: iron oxides in the form of magnetite. This is a black mineral, usually in very fine particles. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if there were some. Regular filters/strainers don't get rid of this very well as it's too fine. On the other hand, regular filters do get rid of a range of other, slightly coarser materials and sediment which the magnetic filters don't touch. Both will do no harm.