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Re: What about HTP floor boiler system with the large tub of water--comments please
How about providing the model that you’re referring to?
Ironman
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Re: The case of the lowered steam pressure, this Friday's case.
Some Iron Fireman History,
In 1923 Thomas Harry Banfield and Cyrus Jury Parker took over an iron works in Portland, Oregon that was manufacturing a small coal stoker. The stoker didn’t work very well, so the men redesigned it and named it the Iron Fireman. It became a commercial success relatively quickly. Coal was an economical heat source, and the Iron Fireman filled a need for automatic control of residential coal fired systems. It could be fitted to an existing furnace or used as the workings of a new one. Parker became the president of the firm. In 1928 both men were involved in an air crash which claimed the life of Parker. Banfield recovered and succeeded him in company leadership.
By the time World War II broke out the firm had manufacturing facilities in Cleveland, Ohio and Toronto, Canada as well as the Portland facility. Their factories were pressed into war service making engines for Liberty ships, and they won the Maritime “M” award given to only about 3% of the manufacturers supporting the war’s maritime effort.
Following the war the company developed oil fired burners at their Cleveland facility, and consolidated the business to that location. The Whirlpower light commercial series (developed by Fred Runninger) and the A series atomizers (developed by Charlie Schrade) had their roots in that work. By 1960 Iron Fireman had a commanding presence in commercial power burner sales – reportedly about 60% of the US market. The coal stoker business was sold to the Will-Burt company. The oil burner business was bought by Space Comfort, a California firm, who relocated it to a new factory in Harrisonburg, Virginia, complete with palm trees in front of the building. The facility attracted the attention of the Garrett AiResearch division of Allied Signal, who was putting together an HVAC conglomerate to gain federal energy grants for the development of solar powered air conditioning. Garrett also purchased Dunham-Bush, a refrigeration and air conditioning firm, moved them into the factory with Iron Fireman and changed the focus of the business.
The 1980’s saw development of the EED burner (by Neil Rampley) and the Constant Flow fuel system (by Larry Gray) for meeting New York City’s stringent rules for firing rate limitation, where Iron Fireman had considerable sales success.
In 2000 Iron Fireman was acquired by Vapor Power, who moved operations to Franklin Park, Illinois, where they operated until production ceased in December 2011.
On Dec. 31st, 2011, the owners of Iron Fireman ceased burner production and sold all remaining assets of the Iron Fireman business to OEM Boiler Parts Inc., of Elizabethtown, PA- including all engineering and sales records, parts inventory and production tooling.
Neil Rampley who designed the EED burner formerly worked for Power Flame.
In 1923 Thomas Harry Banfield and Cyrus Jury Parker took over an iron works in Portland, Oregon that was manufacturing a small coal stoker. The stoker didn’t work very well, so the men redesigned it and named it the Iron Fireman. It became a commercial success relatively quickly. Coal was an economical heat source, and the Iron Fireman filled a need for automatic control of residential coal fired systems. It could be fitted to an existing furnace or used as the workings of a new one. Parker became the president of the firm. In 1928 both men were involved in an air crash which claimed the life of Parker. Banfield recovered and succeeded him in company leadership.
By the time World War II broke out the firm had manufacturing facilities in Cleveland, Ohio and Toronto, Canada as well as the Portland facility. Their factories were pressed into war service making engines for Liberty ships, and they won the Maritime “M” award given to only about 3% of the manufacturers supporting the war’s maritime effort.
Following the war the company developed oil fired burners at their Cleveland facility, and consolidated the business to that location. The Whirlpower light commercial series (developed by Fred Runninger) and the A series atomizers (developed by Charlie Schrade) had their roots in that work. By 1960 Iron Fireman had a commanding presence in commercial power burner sales – reportedly about 60% of the US market. The coal stoker business was sold to the Will-Burt company. The oil burner business was bought by Space Comfort, a California firm, who relocated it to a new factory in Harrisonburg, Virginia, complete with palm trees in front of the building. The facility attracted the attention of the Garrett AiResearch division of Allied Signal, who was putting together an HVAC conglomerate to gain federal energy grants for the development of solar powered air conditioning. Garrett also purchased Dunham-Bush, a refrigeration and air conditioning firm, moved them into the factory with Iron Fireman and changed the focus of the business.
The 1980’s saw development of the EED burner (by Neil Rampley) and the Constant Flow fuel system (by Larry Gray) for meeting New York City’s stringent rules for firing rate limitation, where Iron Fireman had considerable sales success.
In 2000 Iron Fireman was acquired by Vapor Power, who moved operations to Franklin Park, Illinois, where they operated until production ceased in December 2011.
On Dec. 31st, 2011, the owners of Iron Fireman ceased burner production and sold all remaining assets of the Iron Fireman business to OEM Boiler Parts Inc., of Elizabethtown, PA- including all engineering and sales records, parts inventory and production tooling.
Neil Rampley who designed the EED burner formerly worked for Power Flame.
Re: troubleshooting honeywell ct87k
I believe in the instructions , when new you need to let it sit to charge the battery .
Big Ed_4
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Re: Gas Hot Water Heater Questions
Hi, Just commenting on the flex line question. In earthquake country, which is in over thirty states, it would be bad form not to use flex connectors for gas and water. Even when tanks are strapped in, they move in a quake. San Francisco burned so badly in the 1906 quake because of gas-line breaks.
Yours, Larry
Yours, Larry
Re: Gorton air vent quality
In regards to the Gorton #2, the story I relate is anecdotal and my experience only:
Some time ago, we received a failed closed Gorton #2.
I opened it up and saw the pin had come out of the bimetallic strip as others have noted.
I put the pin back and soldered the unit back together, tested it with our steam vent tester and put it on my truck for stock.
Sometime later, the unit accidentally fell out of my truck a distance of about two feet and hit the road (while still in its original box).
It went into silent mode again.
I had to open it back up to fix it again.
Lesson learned, don't let them drop!
I've also taken to putting a 55mm long piece of folded cardboard up the stalk and holding it in place with a plastic thread protector cap as a preventative measure until the the unit is used.
https://youtu.be/rpi5HaZ4O04
Some time ago, we received a failed closed Gorton #2.
I opened it up and saw the pin had come out of the bimetallic strip as others have noted.
I put the pin back and soldered the unit back together, tested it with our steam vent tester and put it on my truck for stock.
Sometime later, the unit accidentally fell out of my truck a distance of about two feet and hit the road (while still in its original box).
It went into silent mode again.
I had to open it back up to fix it again.
Lesson learned, don't let them drop!
I've also taken to putting a 55mm long piece of folded cardboard up the stalk and holding it in place with a plastic thread protector cap as a preventative measure until the the unit is used.
https://youtu.be/rpi5HaZ4O042
Re: Gorton air vent quality
I am not a QA engineer. I am an RF Engineer with QA QC experience in addition to design test and measurement in manufacturing and now at the end of my career in the service sector . I am certain that I know why your vent float was in it's condition, I just do not want to be the one to say it because I have made statements that some would consider critical of some manufacturers. When I was a young lad in the 1970s I followed auto racing. USAC NASCAR CANAM. There was a number of incidents when during races at racing speeds the wheels came off of cars. The pit crews were blamed. They were not doing anything differently than they had before. The engineers and tire people discovered that the crews were not at fault. The tire fasteners were not suitable for the vibrations and higher centripetal forces above 185 mph. Whenever I was given investigative duties I had a saying. "Trust no one suspect every one" and "what is obvious to you may not be to others"
Seasonal Maine home
We own a seasonal cottage on an island off of Portland, ME. We are doing a small addition of a 1st floor primary bed & bath. We want to do the plumbing ourselves (no heating system involved). Are we able to pull the permit as the homeowner even though it is not our primary residence?
Re: Gorton air vent quality
ethicalpaul, I do not know what you mean by trauma. I and other members on this site have dropped and thrown these vents and could not dislodge the pins. I have opened measured and inspected over 50 G#5, G#6, GC and GD vents which all use the same case and bimettalic strip arrangement as the G#4. In all cases I had to use both hands. One to press hard to get the extended end of the strip to touch the base of the case and then more pressure to deform it and the other hand to pull the pin out of the hole. In addition, the same was done to restore the pin to it's position on the strip. In one vent I could not get it out. If you have big fingers it is difficult to do this. I have a QA/QC background earlier in my career and statistically if they could be dislodged by banging them around, it would be verified. If anyone has successfully dislodged the pins in these vents please let me know.
Re: Not all Old Timers took pride in their work
Wonder what plumbing codes existed in 1910 when this was done in my house?Big cities? Way before 1910. Boonies? Not even today.
I'm assuming none in my area.
When did plumbing codes really take off and get implemented and start getting inspected etc?
Re: Not all Old Timers took pride in their work
Old timers had told me that cutters were not yet available. From what I have been told, the scissor cutter wasn't around much back then. May not have been invented.
The first scissor chain cutter and then in later years, the ratcheting chain cutter was introduced.
The first scissor chain cutter and then in later years, the ratcheting chain cutter was introduced.
Intplm.
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