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Re: Low water cut off
I agree with replacing the #67 and the #47 LWCO at certain intervals, As long as they have been flushed properly each week. If it has been neglected for a few years, then I would NOT spend the time cleaning it out. Mostly because my labor to do it properly would cost too much, compared to replacing it and having a 10 year old rebuilt part when completed. But I would take one apart and do a deep cleaning and install new gaskets and flush valve every 5 years or so. Then make a judgment call as to the need for a new replacement or keel the existing.
I have been looking for a story or video that has a #67 that would appear to operate properly on a flush (because the fast flow of the water past the float forced the switch off) but failed to shut off the burner when the water level dropped slowly as it might during normal operation.
That was because there was a small mound of build up on the ledge that the float would get stuck on, and that flushing failed to remove. I believe it was @DanHolohan who published it but I just can't find it. I stole this pic from Gordo to illustrate how the fast moving water in the flush didn’t move all the schmutz outta the way. (schmutz is a technical term)

Probably because the flush was not done with high enough steam pressure
I have been looking for a story or video that has a #67 that would appear to operate properly on a flush (because the fast flow of the water past the float forced the switch off) but failed to shut off the burner when the water level dropped slowly as it might during normal operation.
That was because there was a small mound of build up on the ledge that the float would get stuck on, and that flushing failed to remove. I believe it was @DanHolohan who published it but I just can't find it. I stole this pic from Gordo to illustrate how the fast moving water in the flush didn’t move all the schmutz outta the way. (schmutz is a technical term)

Probably because the flush was not done with high enough steam pressure
Re: Is the pump dying?
As far as I know the Alpha line has always had ceramic shaft and bearings.PC7060 said:I recently looked at the data sheet for the new model Alpha (15-58FR). I’m curious about these bullets; are bearing better that previous Alpha 2. I assume the auto-deblocking is a correction for the stalled pumped issue after long stop period.hot_rod said:A 15-58 Grundfos would be my choice . A 3 speed pump for adjustability
- Anti-magnetic shafts and bearings
- Robust Start function enabling automatic deblocking
ECMs are DC motors so starting torque is better than a PSC type circ.
Probably the best feature is the exercise function to run the motor occasionally during the off season
Generally it is crappy water that can seize the motor over long off periods. Hydronic conditioners can help with bad fill water

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Re: Triangle Tube boiler not flowing
If there is no flow in the system, it has nothing to do with the 3 way- that's typically a closed valve or an airlock situation. Do you have flowmeters or something to measure flow? How are you verifying the lack of flow?

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Re: Triangle Tube boiler not flowing
Possible that something is air-bound?
Usually changing the plunger is the fix for a combi mixing valve. Tech support should be able to answer your questions.
Usually changing the plunger is the fix for a combi mixing valve. Tech support should be able to answer your questions.
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Re: Triangle Tube boiler not flowing
You say Radiant floor heating...
What tubing?
o2 barrier on it?
Those 3 way valves are notorious for having issues w/ Non barrier tubing and systems "mudding" up.
What tubing?
o2 barrier on it?
Those 3 way valves are notorious for having issues w/ Non barrier tubing and systems "mudding" up.

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Re: 2 zones, 2 pumps. 2 flow control valves?
Agree with @delcrossv. It should have a reverse flow problem.
Since the pump will move the water to the path of least resistance, somehow the resistance thru the boiler and flow control valve, and the path thru the opposite zone that is off, were fairly close. So close that perhaps the amount of flow that would happen by gravity to the non calling zone when the flow valve opened, was equal to the reverse flow of the calling zone’s circulator. If someone replaced one of those B&G 100 pumps with a Taco 007, that balance would be different and who knows what would happen.
By all other scenarios that should not work so well.
Since the pump will move the water to the path of least resistance, somehow the resistance thru the boiler and flow control valve, and the path thru the opposite zone that is off, were fairly close. So close that perhaps the amount of flow that would happen by gravity to the non calling zone when the flow valve opened, was equal to the reverse flow of the calling zone’s circulator. If someone replaced one of those B&G 100 pumps with a Taco 007, that balance would be different and who knows what would happen.
By all other scenarios that should not work so well.
Re: Boiler Piping question
Your letter looks fine. I believe you should send it by certified mail with a return receipt. You will probably get a phone call the day the letter is delivered.
Hopefully this will get you in a better place with a lower oil bill.
Hopefully this will get you in a better place with a lower oil bill.
The Significance Of The Fire
The Significance Of The Fire
The Irish made fires that never went out. The fire in the hearth was for cooking and for warmth, and it smoldered for hundreds of years in some cases. In this episode, Dan Holohan reflects on his heating heritage.
Re: 2 zones, 2 pumps. 2 flow control valves?
There are two reasons for Flow Control Valves
1. On a tankless coil for DHW boiler you do not want gravity flow from the boiler that is maintaining a minimum temperature. the Flow Control/ FloChek. or IFC check valve in the pump (if it is on the supply) will keep that from happening;
2. To keep a zone circulator from drawing water backwards thru the piping of a zone that is not operational.
Look in this book called Pumping Away starting on page 9. The illustrations and text are really easy to follow.
1. On a tankless coil for DHW boiler you do not want gravity flow from the boiler that is maintaining a minimum temperature. the Flow Control/ FloChek. or IFC check valve in the pump (if it is on the supply) will keep that from happening;
2. To keep a zone circulator from drawing water backwards thru the piping of a zone that is not operational.
Look in this book called Pumping Away starting on page 9. The illustrations and text are really easy to follow.
Re: Viessmann Vitodens 100 WB1B-35 Burner Screws
You can buy a whole kit of stainless metric bolts of any head configuration on Amazon for not much$$

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