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Re: Any hope for my National Heat Extractor 100 series oil boiler?
You are an asset to to all of us Frank. Thank youWe need to add a "blushing" emoticon to this board.............. @Erin Holohan Haskell ?
Here are the pics I promised. The first two are the burner still in place but with the motor removed- they turned out kinda dark:


Here's what it looks like out of the boiler:

Here it is in our shed, sitting next to another AF I had sitting around. Look at the difference in size, also note how the air tube gets smaller a few inches away from the chassis. This seems to reinforce the theory that they used the same chassis for several different capacities, and used higher motor speeds (and bigger air tubes) for the higher capacities:

Finally, the combustion test. The most recent tag we found was from 2012, with what sounded like "rag-and-tags" in more recent years. This photo isn't downsized as much as I usually do so it may take a bit longer to load. But I wanted you all to see what was on the tag and also what was on my Wöhler's screen. Looks like I lied about the combustion efficiency, it actually got up slightly above 80%.

The Esso had a 1.00x80B nozzle, which I'm assuming was running at 100 PSI. The firebox was what looks like a recent model Lynn bathtub type, which is rather shallow. Not sure if that B (solid cone) nozzle was slamming the flame into the back of the firebox. I really regret not being able to fire the Esso and see what it was doing.
The Beckett is firing a 0.75x80A (hollow cone) at 140 PSI, for a rate of about 0.90 GPH. The flame neatly fits the firebox without impinging on it.
The draft regulator resisted my attempts to adjust it, so I just went with what I had. The baffles certainly helped offset the excess draft.
It's obvious there are some air leaks into this boiler, or it's downfired too far, or both. The nameplate shows a capacity of 1.35 GPH, which of course is with an old-style burner. Dropping this about 15% to accommodate the hotter flame from a modern burner takes us down to 1.15 GPH, so 0.90 doesn't sound excessively low. I suspect air leaks, but we don't want to remove the jacket on a boiler this old for obvious reasons. It's better than it was, and isn't too bad, which is what counts.
Enjoy!
Re: Any hope for my National Heat Extractor 100 series oil boiler?
Well, the lady is up and running. Good thing we stock 13-inch air tubes, nothing shorter would have worked.
Between the baffles, the more-efficient burner, brushing & vacuuming, sealing the doors and proper tuning, we got the stack temp down by 150 degrees or so, and the combustion efficiency up from 72 to 79-and-change percent. The stack relay is gone- she now has a proper 15-second primary with valve-on-delay.
I did take some pics of the Esso, but it's time for bed. I'll post them soon, probably tomorrow.
Between the baffles, the more-efficient burner, brushing & vacuuming, sealing the doors and proper tuning, we got the stack temp down by 150 degrees or so, and the combustion efficiency up from 72 to 79-and-change percent. The stack relay is gone- she now has a proper 15-second primary with valve-on-delay.
I did take some pics of the Esso, but it's time for bed. I'll post them soon, probably tomorrow.
Re: Wood-fired Steam Heating
Someone up there posted a comment complaining about the cost of firewood. Full disclosure here: my son-in-law is a forester and logger. "Cut, split and delivered seasoned hardwood" is not quite as simple -- or as cheap to create -- as might be assumed. Logging and forestry isn't jolly lumberjacks heading into the woods, singing songs, anymore. it is hedged around by literal books of regulations. You can't get help to work in the woods (we've tried to hire helpers who aren't positively dangerous and they don't exist at less than close to a grand a day). The equipment isn't cheap, either. Then the price of wood is wildly variable, and anything decent will sell for well over the quoted figure up there for firewood. Firewood is made from stuff you can't sell for timber or veneer, and is usually sold at a loss -- and only because you have to clean up the woodlot. Then you have to saw it to stove length (and a cutoff saw is one of the most dangerous gadgets in the world). Then you have to split it. Then store it for a year or more. Then truck it to the customer. Or you can chip it and sell it to someone to pelletize it, and then they have to market that (and one of the big pelletizers down south just went bust).
By the time you're done, you may -- if the market holds up and nothing breaks -- have broken even on expenses with enough left over to feed the family some beans.
And anything less than 50 acres isn't even worth looking at, never mind moving the equipment onto to do the job.
If you have your own woodlot, and if you have your own chainsaw and safety equipment, and if you have a good splitter, and a truck or forwarder to move it to your cabin in the woods... and are young enough and strong enough, yeah, great stuff. For the average bloke on a suburban lot somewhere, maybe not so much.
By the time you're done, you may -- if the market holds up and nothing breaks -- have broken even on expenses with enough left over to feed the family some beans.
And anything less than 50 acres isn't even worth looking at, never mind moving the equipment onto to do the job.
If you have your own woodlot, and if you have your own chainsaw and safety equipment, and if you have a good splitter, and a truck or forwarder to move it to your cabin in the woods... and are young enough and strong enough, yeah, great stuff. For the average bloke on a suburban lot somewhere, maybe not so much.
Re: Related Xmas decorations. Merry Christmas!
@Intplm.Is it a nice lump? take a pic and post?
All I get is a lump of coal.
Intplm.
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Re: Prestige Solo 110 boiler. Is there a way to switch modulation off and on?
I like the CH2 suggestion and different curve if the rest of the system supports it. (Not familiar with your boiler)
You could use a wind up electro mechanical timer. Instead of a thermostat. They are cheap. Available in 15 minute (max), 30 minute (max) etc flavors. Wind it up to X number of minutes and done. Shuts itself off.
You could use a wind up electro mechanical timer. Instead of a thermostat. They are cheap. Available in 15 minute (max), 30 minute (max) etc flavors. Wind it up to X number of minutes and done. Shuts itself off.
Now you are down to 2 extra wires with something that shuts itself off and can’t be inadvertently left on.
Another Steamer
We replaced this piped wrong leaking Utica with a Peerless. Great weather today to do a boiler.











EzzyT
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Re: Propane Explosion Destroys Building- Bird-in-Hand, PA
Mayhem is everywhere. But we're not doomed to fate. Use the brains and skills we're given, do things right, and look out for others. Be helpful. Flippant responses of "that's not DIY" are not helpful. Instead, explain why something might be difficult for someone without the proper tools or experience. That way, they will either be a more educated customer, or a more educated DIYer.
Wishing everyone a happy and safe New Year.

Wishing everyone a happy and safe New Year.

WMno57
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