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Re: Anyone ever seen this style steam rad?
I'll play devils advocate here. We Americans preach to one another about the need for high efficient everything, from our electric appliances, automobiles and most especially our heating/cooling systems. Then we come across these antiquated steam systems with their 100+ year old radiators and we just seem to forget about efficiency because the rads look so "neat" or "artistic" and it seems we must keep them in service no matter what. These systems represent an era long, long gone!! It's time to update that old steam system to something more efficient, that goes for ALL steam, everywhere except perhaps in an industrial application that requires steam like mushroom farms or papermills. Yes, it might cost an arm & leg but isn't our future worth that? It's not going to get any cheaper!! If you really love those old radiators, pull them out and put them in a museum where they belong on display for the by-gone times of ancientInteresting that you would blame the emitters for the efficiency of this system not knowing what the source is. Sure we can make assumptions but should we? There are not too many more efficient ways to store and deliver heat energy than high mass cast iron emitters. We really should be picking on the building envelope, though we can only assume what that is.
heating. Bra-ha-ha-ha!!
Grallert
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Re: Anyone ever seen this style steam rad?
I think that's a Clogston, and yes, we have charts for radiators like this. Go here:
https://www.heatinghelp.com/systems-help-center/ribbed-and-ringed-radiator-ratings/
and here:
https://www.heatinghelp.com/systems-help-center/clogston-radiator-patent/
https://www.heatinghelp.com/systems-help-center/ribbed-and-ringed-radiator-ratings/
and here:
https://www.heatinghelp.com/systems-help-center/clogston-radiator-patent/
Re: Anyone ever seen this style steam rad?
This is in a church in Baltimore, MD. The church was sold to the Seventh-Day Adventist church back in 1950. It was originally a Hebrew Temple.
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Re: Uncap 7 inch furnace exhaust pipe in basement
Oh. Well, I won't comment on the crop. However, your humidity is going to be off the charts in that exhaust air. That is going to cause a lot of condensation in that poor chimney. At the very least I would want to add a Continuus stainless steel flue liner or that old chimney will have a short and miserable life.
Does It Pay To Fix Those Steam Traps?

Does It Pay To Fix Those Steam Traps?
Short answer: It sure does, but not in the way you may think.
Re: Looking for a Q90-100
Ed the Heater man,
As a matter of fact I had a 57 2dr post car with a 427 in it. Single 4 barrel on an aluminum intake. That was a fun car. I am currently building a 55 Chevy 2 dr hardtop

As a matter of fact I had a 57 2dr post car with a 427 in it. Single 4 barrel on an aluminum intake. That was a fun car. I am currently building a 55 Chevy 2 dr hardtop

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Re: Added Vents, Lost Heat?
Only for this instance because the 16 minutes at the end was on a relatively cold system. It's moot anyway, because I propped it back up, and lifted a couple of radiators and they're now getting hot for the first time ever, woo hoo!GeekGirl913 said:Just timed the front main, without the one end supported, and it took 16 minutes to get my first paltry steam puff. Granted, the system was on the cold side, but still, that's quite a while especially since the cycle guard cuts the burners off after 20 minutes to do its thing.KC_Jones said:Have you timed how long each of the mains takes to heat? Shouldn’t take more than about 5 minutes.
Going to let it cool down, then try it again with the front main propped up a bit to see how long it takes then.
The rear main was/does get hot, but even when I have gotten steam out of it, it's not flowing to those last two radiators out of nowhere.
mattmia2 said:
Oddly, when the guy first redid the near boiler piping, it heated quite nicely, I was shocked. Our kitchen is a converted mud room and is all windows, so it's quite cold in there.Note that the main you showed the end of has a return at the end so that main should slope toward the return. Also not my notes above showing that the way it is piped you can't get that radiator branched essentially off the return to heat well.
Re: This Friday's case, the case of the lost heat call
@The Wire Nut I remember meeting you Thanks for the tour. I dont like being petty on a job and never embarrass anyone in front of another person but in this case i made an exception. Funny thing is I used to be a control tech, spending several years with Johnson Controls. Thanks for watching Alex!
The case of the boiler that failed on low water, this Friday's case
In this case, an attendee at a steam seminar asked me at break about the steam boiler in his home. The cast iron boiler dry fired and cracked. The thing that was different than other cases like this was the homeowner said he blew down the boiler a few times each heating season and it still failed. Each time he blew down the boiler, the burner would shut off like it is supposed to do. It wasn't a one time event like a broken pipe that caused the boiler to fail. I'll let you know Friday at 6am EST what caused the problem.



