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Re: 100 years ago today-- heating fuel choices
In 1922, my village voted 177 to 48 to install it's first power plant.
$11,405 for the building and $6,041 for a 1 cylinder 38 KW engine and switchgear. That was a "Hothead" diesel that could be started with the "shotgun shell" explosive charge if needed.
It was still in the building in 1968 and used as a "peaker" to get thru the noon hour.
The plant ran only 18 hours a day.....why would you need electricity at night when you were in bed?
Rates ranged from 7 cents to 17 cents per KWH, but by 1925 rates went up to 10 to 18 cents/KWH, there was a minimum of $1.50 per month.....no small amount in the 1920-30's
In the 1920's a 10,000 gallon train load of fuel oil cost 2.75 cents per gallon.
Today my electric rate is 16 cents/KWH......think about what fuel oil costs today.
Adjusting for inflation, electric rates have gone down from 1920.
We get our power from the grid and thru various agencies that buy on a daily basis.
So the source is hydro, coal, and Nuclear.
We just are in the process of adding another diesel generator, 2.1 MW....a lot for us.
We will lease 1.8 MW of it to the power pool for their stand by use.
This puts our plant up to 3.35 MW for our load of about 2.0 MW.
In the 60's we were considered very backward to keep our power plant as all other small town scrapped theirs and connected to the grid. They now envy us when the grid might go down for 1 day to 1 week.
In a blackout we can be back on line in 30 minutes.
$11,405 for the building and $6,041 for a 1 cylinder 38 KW engine and switchgear. That was a "Hothead" diesel that could be started with the "shotgun shell" explosive charge if needed.
It was still in the building in 1968 and used as a "peaker" to get thru the noon hour.
The plant ran only 18 hours a day.....why would you need electricity at night when you were in bed?
Rates ranged from 7 cents to 17 cents per KWH, but by 1925 rates went up to 10 to 18 cents/KWH, there was a minimum of $1.50 per month.....no small amount in the 1920-30's
In the 1920's a 10,000 gallon train load of fuel oil cost 2.75 cents per gallon.
Today my electric rate is 16 cents/KWH......think about what fuel oil costs today.
Adjusting for inflation, electric rates have gone down from 1920.
We get our power from the grid and thru various agencies that buy on a daily basis.
So the source is hydro, coal, and Nuclear.
We just are in the process of adding another diesel generator, 2.1 MW....a lot for us.
We will lease 1.8 MW of it to the power pool for their stand by use.
This puts our plant up to 3.35 MW for our load of about 2.0 MW.
In the 60's we were considered very backward to keep our power plant as all other small town scrapped theirs and connected to the grid. They now envy us when the grid might go down for 1 day to 1 week.
In a blackout we can be back on line in 30 minutes.
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Re: 100 years ago today-- heating fuel choices
Local (town) electric plants had to be 60CPS AC close-enough for electric clocks to keep good time. (Quartz comes later.) When my dad was in high school he had the gofer job at the power plant. The Chief Engineer had a very fine pocket watch, which he checked every day against Railway Time. In the power house was a good AC wall-clock, which followed the errors of the electric plant. He'd check one against the other and trim the steam-engine governor so they agreed every day.
Here's 1919. Coal getting hard to get, they were burning light oil (kerosene) to stay warm.
This idea of stop-starting a fire on electrical contact was radical. As you appreciate if you ever managed a coal or even wood fire. Solid fuels take a long time to go cold and a long time (and puffing) to hot-up again.

Here's 1919. Coal getting hard to get, they were burning light oil (kerosene) to stay warm.
This idea of stop-starting a fire on electrical contact was radical. As you appreciate if you ever managed a coal or even wood fire. Solid fuels take a long time to go cold and a long time (and puffing) to hot-up again.

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Re: gas steam boiler heating problem
Just wanted all to know that Scullys is truly a gem. Nothing or no one I have ever met as a plumber or person even comes close. he truly is a gem and so knowledgeable. he came over this morning and asked a few questions. He asked what might have changed in our home since this whole banging and heating problem occurred. He checked the pitch on the return pipe and saw that when the previous contractors who finished our basement in january closed in the pipes they lifted them to fit into the new enclosure or soffit. he took away the part that was changing the pitch and IMMEDIATELY we heard the water returning to the boiler and it filled to the normal level. he was amazing and he said now I have time to watch it for a few weeks or so and then we can make a new decision. he even looked at the water heater and after some discussion, he said nothing was a rush. What a gentleman and what a great guy. He is so honest knows his stuff and does not panic the homeowner. So confident in his work etc. Whatever I do in the future which might be a new boiler and water heater as time tells- he will be the ONLY company I will want doing it. I thank you all and I truly thank Scullys for being in my corner.
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Re: Help Needed!! Type L-Vent as a Chimney Liner, but no masonry on roof (just a vent)?
L vent all the way- done.
Re: This Friday's case, the case of the lost heat call
Wow lots of great guesses. I love that about our industry. Just when I think I have it figured out, a new twist is added. The problem was the boiler heated so quickly, it would shut off on the supply water temperature. The supply temperature sensor was really close to the lead boiler outlet. Since it was milder weather, the loop didnt need much heat. The solution was to relocate the sensor to the return and everything worked great.It's almost like the Karma Gods say, That Ray is pretty cocky. Let's throw him a curve. LOL here is the link to the video. Thanks everyone. https://youtube.com/watch?v=zS2RvBQCWxI
Re: Orifice
I think I just solved the mystery. The number 25 orifice I thought I was using. Yes it says 25 on it but someone years ago inserted a smaller hole like a plug and redrilled to a different size so I thought was a 25. It was not



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Re: Sizing steam down to correct heat loss instead of up to oversized radiation
Ah the new episode of "Sensitive Subjects, with ethicalpaul" just premiered
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Re: Which is the best plumbing equipment tools to inspect our drainage system?
I'm just saying, that kind of thing may be why jetter appears on the poll. There may be much better units out there, possibly wired, I have no idea
Re: New low pressure gauge reading zero
Ethanol PaulI think Paul is more of an "Electrify" than an "Ethanol".
Hmmmmm, I wonder if I could run my water heater on E85?
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Re: Plumbing archaeology
It is mind boggling that the Romans were using basically the same technology two thousand years ago. But probably for both waste AND water? Lead poisoning must have been an issue there. Or was the supply coming via stone or cement aqueducts? (From Arles, southern France)






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