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New England SteamWorks
New England SteamWorks Posts: 1,529
in Strictly Steam



For your Friday, pre-hurricane, amusement...
New England SteamWorks
Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
newenglandsteamworks.com
GregWeissDouble D

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  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Posts: 17,982
    did the nameplate run off in horror?
    JakeCKPC7060Double D
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Posts: 27,734
    I like the funnel on the safety valve...
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
    mattmia2BruceSteinberg
  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Posts: 3,084
    let me guess, they wanted you to service it and become responsible for it...no thank you
    gwgillplumbingandheating.com
    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

    Double D
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Posts: 17,982
    Jamie Hall said:

    I like the funnel on the safety valve...

    i feel like someone was not paying the water bill and they were pouring water in to keep the boiler running
    CLambDouble D
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Posts: 7,485
    That Funnel is to funny!

    The BBQ tongs so you don't leave finger prints at the scene of the crime!
    mattmia2nicholas bonham-carter
  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Posts: 2,073
    Wow can’t believe that 
    Ray Wohlfarth
    Boiler Lessons
  • jhewings
    jhewings Posts: 139
    The mud level looks about right
    gerry gill
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Posts: 20,932
    I think they should have raised the Hartford loop
  • GW
    GW Posts: 5,228
    There’s no hand railings? 
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
    mattmia2Double D
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Posts: 18,830
    30-something year old Columbia or Utica.

    Looks like it may have dry-fired.

    And what's with the barometric on the smoke pipe when there's a draft hood?

    Co-Founder, All Steamed Up, Inc.

    Baltimore, MD, USA

  • STEVEusaPA
    STEVEusaPA Posts: 6,505
    I don’t see a draft hood

    There was an error rendering this rich post.

  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Posts: 18,830
    It's mounted at the rear of the boiler. The breech connection is actually the top of the draft hood.

    Co-Founder, All Steamed Up, Inc.

    Baltimore, MD, USA

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Posts: 17,982
    Steamhead said:


    And what's with the barometric on the smoke pipe when there's a draft hood?

    Judging from the new flue cemented in to what looks like the old flue looks like someone just stuck it in to what was already there.
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Posts: 20,932
    And all boiler manual's have pretty picture in them that show you exactly how to pipe them,

    but then, you have to wan't to install it right

    and be able to read.......so no.
  • GW
    GW Posts: 5,228
     And what's with the barometric on the smoke pipe when there's a draft hood?
    Going out on a limb- it’s conceivable someone blocked the original hood with Sheetmetal. The Captain, Jim Davis, discusses this in his classes. The integrated “box” hoods are not as effective as a swinging barometric. The center sections get plenty of draft and the end sections get less. 
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
    realliveplumber
  • dopey27177
    dopey27177 Posts: 916
    Did some one bring it in from the rain?

    Jake
    Steam: The Perfect Fluid for Heating and Some of the Problems
    by Jacob (Jake) Myron
    mattmia2
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Posts: 20,932
    The funnel is how they fill the boiler when it can't get water through the high Hartford loop.

    Poor thing killed itself trying to run. Never had a chance
    Quarencia
  • Ironman
    Ironman Posts: 7,942
    It might be easier to find what's not wrong.
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
    mattmia2
  • Double D
    Double D Posts: 467
    It's not piped in copper.
    PC7060
  • Quarencia
    Quarencia Posts: 2
    EBEBRATT-Ed said:

    The funnel is how they fill the boiler when it can't get water through the high Hartford loop.

    Poor thing killed itself trying to run. Never had a chance

    I don’t see where the Hartford loop is high. The Hartford loop height is defined where the return pipe comes down and rises back up to the larger equalizer pipe on the right of the picture. If anything, assuming the lowest operating point is somewhere in the sight glass range, the Hartford loop looks a little low.
  • steamer45
    steamer45 Posts: 13
    It will never make proper steam without insulating the piping! Can't they see the obvious, shheeesh.
    Double D
  • heatingman
    heatingman Posts: 5
    ha ha ha
  • CarlosTorres
    CarlosTorres Posts: 2
    Everything!
  • CarlosTorres
    CarlosTorres Posts: 2
    Nice rebuild project!
  • PHCS
    PHCS Posts: 3
    Agree definitely looks like a project. Like it's been rode hard and put away dry!!
    Double D
  • TommyNg
    TommyNg Posts: 1
    It looks like it was made in Afghanistan by the Taliban! Sad facts is I have encounter alot of these in NYC and the owner dont have the money for proper service.
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Posts: 17,982
    PHCS said:

    Agree definitely looks like a project. Like it's been rode hard and put away dry!!

    Or wet. I can't tell if it is the dry fired theory or if the basement had about 4 ft of water in it.
  • Anthony Menafro
    Anthony Menafro Posts: 200
    WOW!!!
  • TheOldBear
    TheOldBear Posts: 2
    Obviously, the funnel is just a temporary replacement for the missing shower head.
    Double D
  • FrankB101
    FrankB101 Posts: 16
    edited August 2021
    I am absolutely shocked. EVERYONE knows (or should know) you cannot set a plastic flashlight on top of a steam boiler. Other than that, ehh.

    Edit. After examining this photo more closely I did come to the conclusion that the gauge glass needs to be cleaned.
    Double D
  • Bronxtech
    Bronxtech Posts: 18
    why didn’t they use PEX for the HEADER?
    the draft regulator is to vent out the Steam from the cracked boiler to heat the basement.
    And clear off the top of the boiler for the frying pan! Fercryinoutloud 😆🤣
  • hozb
    hozb Posts: 2
    Gas was shut off... Based on the burner/regulator/flue condition, I would argue you would die from high ambient CO before the boiler would blow up....Sadly, most if not all techs do not wear/carry a personal ambient CO meter. I have inspected many similar gas appliances in worse condition... Think disconnected/blocked/rusted flue exhaust and after a few steps down to the basement, my alarm set at CO 15ppm I quickly called the gas company for a shut off and red tag... I cannot stress enough that a personal CO meter should be required for all techs..
    Larry Weingarten
  • Kickstand55
    Kickstand55 Posts: 117
    Nothing wrong here folks, just move along. Oh, don't forget your flashlight and tongs.
    This kind of stuff is believable.
    I see horrible installations like this and worse in my working area and it will continue to go on to eternity, unfortunately.

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