Welcome! Here are the website rules, as well as some tips for using this forum.
Need to contact us? Visit https://heatinghelp.com/contact-us/.
Click here to Find a Contractor in your area.

What's Wrong With This Picture?




For your Friday, pre-hurricane, amusement...
New England SteamWorks
Service, Installation, & Restoration of Steam Heating Systems
newenglandsteamworks.com
GregWeissDouble D

Comments

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 5,510
    did the nameplate run off in horror?
    JakeCKPC7060Double D
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 18,923
    I like the funnel on the safety valve...
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
    mattmia2BruceSteinberg
  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,032
    let me guess, they wanted you to service it and become responsible for it...no thank you
    gwgillplumbingandheating.com
    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

    Double D
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 5,510

    I like the funnel on the safety valve...

    i feel like someone was not paying the water bill and they were pouring water in to keep the boiler running
    CLambDouble D
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 2,880
    That Funnel is to funny!

    The BBQ tongs so you don't leave finger prints at the scene of the crime!
    mattmia2nicholas bonham-carter
  • RayWohlfarth
    RayWohlfarth Member Posts: 953
    Wow can’t believe that 
    Ray Wohlfarth
    Boiler Lessons
  • jhewings
    jhewings Member Posts: 82
    The mud level looks about right
    gerry gill
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 11,989
    I think they should have raised the Hartford loop
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,536
    There’s no hand railings? 
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    [email protected]
    mattmia2Double D
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 15,330
    30-something year old Columbia or Utica.

    Looks like it may have dry-fired.

    And what's with the barometric on the smoke pipe when there's a draft hood?
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
  • STEVEusaPA
    STEVEusaPA Member Posts: 5,688
    I don’t see a draft hood
    steve
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 15,330
    It's mounted at the rear of the boiler. The breech connection is actually the top of the draft hood.
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 5,510
    Steamhead said:


    And what's with the barometric on the smoke pipe when there's a draft hood?

    Judging from the new flue cemented in to what looks like the old flue looks like someone just stuck it in to what was already there.
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 11,989
    And all boiler manual's have pretty picture in them that show you exactly how to pipe them,

    but then, you have to wan't to install it right

    and be able to read.......so no.
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,536
     And what's with the barometric on the smoke pipe when there's a draft hood?
    Going out on a limb- it’s conceivable someone blocked the original hood with Sheetmetal. The Captain, Jim Davis, discusses this in his classes. The integrated “box” hoods are not as effective as a swinging barometric. The center sections get plenty of draft and the end sections get less. 
    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    [email protected]
    realliveplumber
  • dopey27177
    dopey27177 Member Posts: 873
    Did some one bring it in from the rain?

    Jake
    mattmia2
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 11,989
    The funnel is how they fill the boiler when it can't get water through the high Hartford loop.

    Poor thing killed itself trying to run. Never had a chance
    Quarencia
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 6,868
    It might be easier to find what's not wrong.
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
    mattmia2
  • Double D
    Double D Member Posts: 414
    It's not piped in copper.
    PC7060
  • Quarencia
    Quarencia Member Posts: 2

    The funnel is how they fill the boiler when it can't get water through the high Hartford loop.

    Poor thing killed itself trying to run. Never had a chance

    I don’t see where the Hartford loop is high. The Hartford loop height is defined where the return pipe comes down and rises back up to the larger equalizer pipe on the right of the picture. If anything, assuming the lowest operating point is somewhere in the sight glass range, the Hartford loop looks a little low.
  • steamer45
    steamer45 Member Posts: 13
    It will never make proper steam without insulating the piping! Can't they see the obvious, shheeesh.
    Double D
  • heatingman
    heatingman Member Posts: 5
    ha ha ha
  • CarlosTorres
    CarlosTorres Member Posts: 2
    Everything!
  • CarlosTorres
    CarlosTorres Member Posts: 2
    Nice rebuild project!
  • PHCS
    PHCS Member Posts: 3
    Agree definitely looks like a project. Like it's been rode hard and put away dry!!
    Double D
  • TommyNg
    TommyNg Member Posts: 1
    It looks like it was made in Afghanistan by the Taliban! Sad facts is I have encounter alot of these in NYC and the owner dont have the money for proper service.
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 5,510
    PHCS said:

    Agree definitely looks like a project. Like it's been rode hard and put away dry!!

    Or wet. I can't tell if it is the dry fired theory or if the basement had about 4 ft of water in it.
  • Anthony Menafro
    Anthony Menafro Member Posts: 189
    WOW!!!
  • TheOldBear
    TheOldBear Member Posts: 2
    Obviously, the funnel is just a temporary replacement for the missing shower head.
    Double D
  • FrankB101
    FrankB101 Member Posts: 11
    edited August 2021
    I am absolutely shocked. EVERYONE knows (or should know) you cannot set a plastic flashlight on top of a steam boiler. Other than that, ehh.

    Edit. After examining this photo more closely I did come to the conclusion that the gauge glass needs to be cleaned.
    Double D
  • Bronxtech
    Bronxtech Member Posts: 17
    why didn’t they use PEX for the HEADER?
    the draft regulator is to vent out the Steam from the cracked boiler to heat the basement.
    And clear off the top of the boiler for the frying pan! Fercryinoutloud 😆🤣
  • hozb
    hozb Member Posts: 1
    Gas was shut off... Based on the burner/regulator/flue condition, I would argue you would die from high ambient CO before the boiler would blow up....Sadly, most if not all techs do not wear/carry a personal ambient CO meter. I have inspected many similar gas appliances in worse condition... Think disconnected/blocked/rusted flue exhaust and after a few steps down to the basement, my alarm set at CO 15ppm I quickly called the gas company for a shut off and red tag... I cannot stress enough that a personal CO meter should be required for all techs..
    Larry Weingarten
  • Kickstand55
    Kickstand55 Member Posts: 47
    Nothing wrong here folks, just move along. Oh, don't forget your flashlight and tongs.
    This kind of stuff is believable.
    I see horrible installations like this and worse in my working area and it will continue to go on to eternity, unfortunately.