What am I doing wrong

maybemark

living room is 69
kitchen is 73
bedroom is 74

maybemark

system 109/109
flame 69%
outside 30
inside stat room 73

SWEI

I would start by lowering the target water temp at the end (the one with an OAT of 60-something) of the ODR curve -- maybe 5°F or so.

maybemark

I just came up and brought the shift reset curve to -14

maybemark

is the shift reset curve the same as what you are asking me what to do?

maybemark

i see the ort in the manual, it has high and low

maybemark

should I raise the shift reset higher? and if so, to what?
then lower the out door air high?

SWEI

Caveat: I have some experience with the Lochinvar controls, but I do not work with them as frequently as some here.

The shift feature moves both ends of the curve up or down at the same time. I would set that to zero and move both endpoints down. I'm not sure where you were before you shifted down 14, but I might start moving the bottom down by 16 and the top down by 22. Then watch for a few hours.

maybemark

default for the high outdoor air is70
default for the low out door air is 180
now you want me to change the shift reset curve to 0, which default
then change the low to 16 and the high to 22?

Gordy

Where are you at on shift?

maybemark

the oda does not go as low as your asking for both high and low

SWEI

Are the first two parameters still at the default settings? If so, you have effectively changed them to 56 and 166 with the -14 shift. We know that 56 makes no sense at all, so let's begin at the beginning. What are the two outdoor temps?

maybemark

now I am on default, before swei I was at I think -14

maybemark

I misunderstood, and tried to put them at the numbers you mentioned, not subtracting that number

maybemark

now I am all messed up, my mistake . I'll go and subtract those numbers.
What should i have the reset curve at?

maybemark

forgot to tell you, the sensor for outside is the same as the temp showing in the kitchen 31

SWEI

What is "on default" ?

We want to work with four numbers here:

Outdoor 1 Low
Outdoor 1 High
Set Point 1 at Low Outdoor Temp
Set Point 1 at High Outdoor Temp

Gordy

Set point you were default 180 drop that.

maybemark

Kurt, with the numbers i thought you want me to go too, it won't let me go that low
when i got downstairs, it has hit the set point, and the boiler was off

Gordy

Set point outdoor air parameter.

maybemark

Gordy, I feel we were close on what you were telling me to do.
Kurt, I appreciate you helping, but I am misunderstanding what you want me to do

Gordy

We are saying the same.

maybemark

well, I am mixed up, because when i turn the knobs, they will not go to what he is asking for, unless I am turning the wrong knobs
which is a good possiblity

maybemark

kurt
can you give me a list of numbers for
the 4 main items on the menu
hi
low
set pt h
set pt low

SWEI

Set the shift to zero and try these:

0 Outdoor 1 Low
64 Outdoor 1 High
150 Set Point 1 at Low Outdoor Temp
88 Set Point 1 at High Outdoor Temp

maybemark

thanks Kurt

maybemark

Kurt
I changed everything you told me to do
Thanks for the starting place

maybemark

I guess I just wait now, nothing to do?

Tinman

Watch the Bears?

SWEI

Unless the place is truly unbearable, just take notes for now.

We want to see what happens to the indoor temp when the outdoor temp rises or falls. The OAT will need to rise or fall at least 5-6 degrees before we can draw any conclusions. Once the OAT changes, watch the indoor temp for an hour or so afterwards.

You're dealing with something over 1,000 pounds of water here plus probably 2x that in steel. It does not change speed quickly, which is a very good thing -- but you do have to know how to drive it.

maybemark

ok kurt
My tenant complained that it is too hot upstairs, he opened the window,
It is much too warm for me on the 1st floor
The temp evened out a little
my bedroom, where I have the stat is 73
the kitchen is 73
the living room is 68 (always been colder in there.
I am just wearing a tee shirt, and I'm sweating

SWEI

It's only been 30 minutes since you changed those settings. Open windows if you need to, but let it run for at least an hour.

Gordy

Watch the supply temps on the boiler. The new target in () will be lower and so should the actual. The lower you get it the more the boiler will like it for efficiency.

If you remember your old target was 128 on the call for heat.

maybemark

system 115/120
flame 100%
outside 27
inside 32
it's been over an hour and 1/2

maybemark

sensor says 30
kitchen thermometer says 26
I don't know which one is right

maybemark

system
120/120
flame 93
outside 30
inside 73

maybemark

system 121/121
flame 74%
outside 30 (I think that sensor is bad) 25 kitchen thermometer outside
inside 73

Gordy

It happens. You need a good quality thermometer to check it against the ohm reading.

maybemark

I know that the sensor is bad, now what, should i buy another one?

maybemark

any suggestions on what i should do now? It is still too hot.
with a bad sensor, I imagine I won't be able to get this boiler fine tuned