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Re: Oil Burner Running Rough
@EdTheHeaterMan , said
. Never clean a Nozzle smaller than 1.25 GPH, and avoid cleaning nozzles below 2.00 GPH. It just ain't worth it
In a perfect world I would agree. But if it's 2:00 am and you don't have another nozzle or the right nozzle you do what you gotta do to get the heat back on.
I have cleaned many nozzles in a pinch and would always go back with a new nozzle especially on the small nozzles.
I had a school once with old Power Flame burners that used a Steinen 90 SS nozzle they are no longer made. Substituting different MFG nozzles NG could not get a good combustion test although with the Steinen nozzles it was fine.
Every year when I cleaned them I replaced the nozzle strainers, oil filters and pump strainers.
Then I moved into the office and they had another "tech" take over the oil stuff. I specifically told him about the nozzles........he didn't listen and threw them out.
2 months go by and were getting calls for smoke and soot. They suffered with it until they finally asked me if I could take a look. We tried different nozzles, different spray angles and pump pressures.
They just wouldn't run without the 90 deg Steinen. Ended up changing the burners. Too bad because they could have got some more years out of them. But those were like 6:00 gph nozzles.
My moto is never throw anything away until you know the replacement works.
. Never clean a Nozzle smaller than 1.25 GPH, and avoid cleaning nozzles below 2.00 GPH. It just ain't worth it
In a perfect world I would agree. But if it's 2:00 am and you don't have another nozzle or the right nozzle you do what you gotta do to get the heat back on.
I have cleaned many nozzles in a pinch and would always go back with a new nozzle especially on the small nozzles.
I had a school once with old Power Flame burners that used a Steinen 90 SS nozzle they are no longer made. Substituting different MFG nozzles NG could not get a good combustion test although with the Steinen nozzles it was fine.
Every year when I cleaned them I replaced the nozzle strainers, oil filters and pump strainers.
Then I moved into the office and they had another "tech" take over the oil stuff. I specifically told him about the nozzles........he didn't listen and threw them out.
2 months go by and were getting calls for smoke and soot. They suffered with it until they finally asked me if I could take a look. We tried different nozzles, different spray angles and pump pressures.
They just wouldn't run without the 90 deg Steinen. Ended up changing the burners. Too bad because they could have got some more years out of them. But those were like 6:00 gph nozzles.
My moto is never throw anything away until you know the replacement works.
Re: Argo AR Zone light on with no call from Thermostat
Try switching the cube relay in the Argo with one from another zone.
If that doesn't work, disconnect one wire from TT from that zone.
Those the easiest to check if you don't have an electrical meter.
Are there actuators involved?
What make and model thermostat? Floor sensor?
Can you post pics of the radiant piping?
If that doesn't work, disconnect one wire from TT from that zone.
Those the easiest to check if you don't have an electrical meter.
Are there actuators involved?
What make and model thermostat? Floor sensor?
Can you post pics of the radiant piping?
HVACNUT
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Re: Main valve in wrong place?
I have the identical set-up with vent placed at end of dry return into wet return as in your diagram. I believe its placement is critical ( I believe there is an explanation I have read about, but Im not qualified to answer why). The only difference in my single pipe steam is I added a Main Vent at the end of the Main where it empties into dry return ( the last plug in diagram). Notwithstanding, I would follow advice from pros here. Regards RTW
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Re: Repair faucet cartridges?
Crest/Good is old school. Email them a picture of your stem or cartridge and they will respond with a replacement or the parts they have in stock.
crestgood@yahoo.com
crestgood@yahoo.com
Re: NYC Council bill being drafted for radiator inspection
That is what New Yorkers need, Another law that is crafted by someone that knows nothing about what they are legislating about with some sort of inspection by unqualified individuals looking at stuff that they have no idea about.
It is unfortunate that this happened to this boy. However there are already laws in place for this. Making another one will not stop all old piping on heating systems from failing. There are not enough officials available now for doing the necessary enforcement of the existing laws and codes. What makes Farah Lewis believe that this is actually going to help in any way? Politics at its lowest form.
The number one cause of death of children from age 1 to 14 years of age is accidental or “unintentional injury”. In a study of the causes of death in the USA of children, there were over 9500 juvenile deaths, almost 5000 were accidental, that is more than half. Now out of those 5000 deaths, there were no steam radiator deaths that year. In the past ten years there was only one death caused by a steam radiator pipe failure.
What about all the other causes of death, do we need a specific law for each one? No more swing sets in the backyard? No more automobiles on the streets near children play areas? And no child should ever be able to watch construction trucks at work. I know my grandson likes to look at them. There should be a law!
Political grandstanding for votes after a tragedy is just as bad as ambulance chasers in other professions that everyone loves!
It is unfortunate that this happened to this boy. However there are already laws in place for this. Making another one will not stop all old piping on heating systems from failing. There are not enough officials available now for doing the necessary enforcement of the existing laws and codes. What makes Farah Lewis believe that this is actually going to help in any way? Politics at its lowest form.
The number one cause of death of children from age 1 to 14 years of age is accidental or “unintentional injury”. In a study of the causes of death in the USA of children, there were over 9500 juvenile deaths, almost 5000 were accidental, that is more than half. Now out of those 5000 deaths, there were no steam radiator deaths that year. In the past ten years there was only one death caused by a steam radiator pipe failure.
What about all the other causes of death, do we need a specific law for each one? No more swing sets in the backyard? No more automobiles on the streets near children play areas? And no child should ever be able to watch construction trucks at work. I know my grandson likes to look at them. There should be a law!
Political grandstanding for votes after a tragedy is just as bad as ambulance chasers in other professions that everyone loves!
Re: 100 years ago today-- heating fuel choices
The way I heard about the oil conversion in residential homes had to do with the returning GI's from WWII. My family has been in the Coal business since 1896. Delivering coal to residential customers by horse drawn wagons. Carrying 100# sacks of coal up hills to pour into the coal shoot, or 250# of coal in a wheelbarrow. Then in the 1930s grandpa purchased coal trucks with dump beds that had the ability to be jacked up in the air, and swiveled 180° to allow the shoot to dump directly into homes with basements that were above the street level. The modern age of coal delivery.
Since most homeowners heated with coal, no one actually thought of using oil. There were a few oil heated homes but coal was the norm. Then WWII sent the workers to Europe and Americans needed to keep those old boilers operating. Coal was the norm until the end of the war. But when the war was over, there were thousands of Sailors and Soldiers returning home with all that military pay in their pockets. New homes were being built with boilers and furnaces that used Gas and Oil. No more shoveling coal and cleaning out the ashes to stay warm. “The Touch of a Dial” is all you need to keep warm.
The family business saw the end of coal coming and the beginning of oil heat. They purchased fuel delivery trucks and started selling conversion burners for the existing homes that have coal heat. The big surge for oil heat was in the late 1940s and all through the 1950’s. The coal trucks were sold off in the late 1950s and the family business became strictly oil heat!
So even though the residential oil burner was available in the 1920’s and 30’s the real surge was after the War. Kind of like the “Baby Boom” was also the “Oil Boom”




Since most homeowners heated with coal, no one actually thought of using oil. There were a few oil heated homes but coal was the norm. Then WWII sent the workers to Europe and Americans needed to keep those old boilers operating. Coal was the norm until the end of the war. But when the war was over, there were thousands of Sailors and Soldiers returning home with all that military pay in their pockets. New homes were being built with boilers and furnaces that used Gas and Oil. No more shoveling coal and cleaning out the ashes to stay warm. “The Touch of a Dial” is all you need to keep warm.
The family business saw the end of coal coming and the beginning of oil heat. They purchased fuel delivery trucks and started selling conversion burners for the existing homes that have coal heat. The big surge for oil heat was in the late 1940s and all through the 1950’s. The coal trucks were sold off in the late 1950s and the family business became strictly oil heat!
So even though the residential oil burner was available in the 1920’s and 30’s the real surge was after the War. Kind of like the “Baby Boom” was also the “Oil Boom”
Circa 1949
My Dad in the center.
Circa 1956

Circa 1956

Circa 1956

Circa 1956 Grand Opening of the new FP Young location at 801 W Olney Ave. Philadelphia Pa.

Re: New flat radiators?
Hot water heat is closed-cycle, so little new oxygen is introduced and it's not like your water supply pipes. If indeed there is any crud in the radiators, it can be cleaned (see Rhomar cleaning products). I've never heard of new boilers requiring new radiators, it seems like these guys are seeing an opportunity to make extra money. If you tell a contractor you want to replace the radiators, it's not their job to tell you not to send extra money their way.
Don't assume there is lead paint before you have tested it. And if there is, it just needs to be painted over.
Re: The case of the steam filled room. this Friday's case
I knew you guys would get it right away. I was more curious if you've ever been inside a steam filled boiler. It's a scary and disorienting experience. I guess what upset me the most was that I didnt follow my rules. I usually prop open the boiler room doors and shut off the burner until Im sure the room is safe. I didnt do that on this one. Have a great weekend all. Here is the link to this weeks video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm6s7Sdzt3Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm6s7Sdzt3QRe: NYC Council bill being drafted for radiator inspection
Highly doubtful that something blew apart due to high pressure. If so, 90+ percent of NYC would be in the Hudson and East rivers and the other waterways. There almost certainly, an element of "STUPID" going on over here. Can't fix stupid. Maybe you can regulate stupid. If the regulators aren't stupid themselves.
Re: NYC Council bill being drafted for radiator inspection
maybe a part of the inspection can be recording each radiator pressure, with a penalty for overages of 2 psi, payable for each radiator,
that might get the boiler keeper's attention to dial it down,
# yeah, fer real
that might get the boiler keeper's attention to dial it down,
# yeah, fer real
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