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Re: Vacuum breaker for steam system
Ya system seems to be in great order, sounds like no vacuum breaker is needed. You all have been a huge help! I have three systems that I’m working on at the moment all 100+ years old that the customers have truly embraced removing the last butcher work and getting the units back to working order as they should be. By the time you get all these old systems up to where they should be the I joke with the customer that they should give me a cot in the basement.HA! There is a lot of time in these restoration jobs. But it sure is nice when they fire up and are as quiet as a church mouse. The owners wife of this new install was telling me today how she has never had soft butter in winter on the counter for the past 30 years until I showed up. I can’t thank you all enough for helping me keep steam alive.
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Re: Taco circulator 007-F5 ( black and green)
Black is sold to OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturers) to include on their package boilers.
Green is what you get when you purchase from a distributer.
Both pumps are identical
Arrow points in the direction you want the water to flow.
Away from the boiler if you install it pump on the supply (Hot out) pipe
Into the boiler if you mount is on the return pipe (less desirable location in many cases, but) may be required on some tight HX boilers when using Primary Secondary piping
Green is what you get when you purchase from a distributer.
Both pumps are identical
Arrow points in the direction you want the water to flow.
Away from the boiler if you install it pump on the supply (Hot out) pipe
Into the boiler if you mount is on the return pipe (less desirable location in many cases, but) may be required on some tight HX boilers when using Primary Secondary piping
Re: Homeowners Versus Contractors
For those of you that want to see the new roll in shower.
Here are 2 of the renderings I paid $2000.00 for

And here is the finished product.

After I few little women's touch accent pieces, I think we will be done. Art Deco is the look I was going for. What do you think?
Re: Vacuum breaker for steam system
I have a combination gorton #2 and MoM #1’s. I had the system running for 45min before any pressure started to build. It’s a new install so I have been skimming, runny for a wile, skimming exc. so it’s running much longer than normal. I noticed it at the end of the long run when the v-stat shut the unit down it dropped to 2oz and there was a call for heat again BUT in the time it took the start up sequence to fire up it pulled below zero on my gauge. Eventually when I shut it down it took a good 5-10 min for the mains to open up. I’m wondering is some of this issue is because I am running it a lot longer than normal. All the vents have been replaced, system balanced and vents added to mains. During normal run it’s hovering at 1oz and every radiator is starting to get hot equally. So the system is doing great, just noticed the vacuum thing.
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Re: Plumbing archaeology
What are they now zinc?
They're using lead to re-build the roof at Notre Dame.Re: Homeowners Versus Contractors
The problems in the trades are bigger than "blue collar" vs. "white collar". In our society, at least here in New York, the working class is getting pummeled with inflation, currency debasement and roaring taxation. A modest home costs $550,000 with $18,000 annual property taxes.
No kid growing up here expects to live the American Dream that their father lived working a blue collar job. Many feel their only chance is landing a Wall Street gig after borrowing $80K for a college degree. Of course academia is all too happy to perpetuate this attitude.
The tradesmen role models are too often missing from their lives, and they are lacking guidance and real-life examples of personal success stories. A majority have no fathers in their lives or their fathers are potted plants.
When a car lease is $800/month and rent a minimum of $2400, who aspires to a mechanic's career bringing down less than six figures? Around here it's too often the uneducated, foreign speaking immigrants and ex-cons who wind up in the trades working for small businesses that often fail to train or develop their workforce.
No kid growing up here expects to live the American Dream that their father lived working a blue collar job. Many feel their only chance is landing a Wall Street gig after borrowing $80K for a college degree. Of course academia is all too happy to perpetuate this attitude.
The tradesmen role models are too often missing from their lives, and they are lacking guidance and real-life examples of personal success stories. A majority have no fathers in their lives or their fathers are potted plants.
When a car lease is $800/month and rent a minimum of $2400, who aspires to a mechanic's career bringing down less than six figures? Around here it's too often the uneducated, foreign speaking immigrants and ex-cons who wind up in the trades working for small businesses that often fail to train or develop their workforce.
Re: Homeowners Versus Contractors
Because the boss or owner assumes all the risk.realliveplumber said:Serious question, why does the boss (owner) need to make more than the employee? Say you have a guy that is being paid $100,000.00 a year, plus benefits. Probably costs what 140-150k to the boss. Say he consistently produces, and earns the boss 75k a year net. Excellent reviews, satisfied customers. Minimal call backs, hardly takes a vacation, always on time, never not once complained about a crappy (literally) crawl space or ditch, will work late without a comment. Will jump into any task with both feet without hesitation. Id go for that all day long.
if something goes wrong, an accident, fire on a job, the owner or boss are on the hook.
As the owner/ boss you get to determine what you feel is a fair compensation for the services you provide to humanity. Hopefully it is as much or more than a manager at a fast food joint🤗
hot_rod
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Re: Balancing a reverse return system with different emitters?
Ideally the radiator is matched to the room load, if not a balance valve or the wheel type angle valve could be used.
A TRV would give you temperature control and balance.
A delta P circ would also help balance if you go with TRVs
A lot to learn about the various balance valves
https://www.caleffi.com/sites/default/files/media/external-file/Idronics_8_NA_Hydronic balancing.pdf
A TRV would give you temperature control and balance.
A delta P circ would also help balance if you go with TRVs
A lot to learn about the various balance valves
https://www.caleffi.com/sites/default/files/media/external-file/Idronics_8_NA_Hydronic balancing.pdf
hot_rod
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Re: Homeowners Versus Contractors
I'm not an officer of Plumber's Local #1, but almost a 40 year, extremely proud member. Yes, candidates do line up circling the blocks and many camp out for days and take shifts in line and stay at local hotels and motels. They DO give preference to Veterans (as they should) and participate in Helmet to Hardhats.
That is to get a spot on the coveted 5 Year Apprentice program. However, The M.E.S.
Division (Repairs) has entry level positions available AND Mechanic positions, but my two friends who own Union shops cannot get any good help. Its a crisis, really it is. Mad Dog 🐕
That is to get a spot on the coveted 5 Year Apprentice program. However, The M.E.S.
Division (Repairs) has entry level positions available AND Mechanic positions, but my two friends who own Union shops cannot get any good help. Its a crisis, really it is. Mad Dog 🐕


