New Crown Steam Boiler

KC_Jones

BobC said:

I agree the equalizer has to be piped correctly, it's a shame because the work he did on the header was not bad -it just won't work right till that equalizer is piped right.

Looking at the manual it seems there is no choice but to use the PRV tapping to skim the boiler. Listen to what others have said about installing a T on that PRV tapping with the safety above and a horizontal pipe and cap to skim through.

Bob

He didn't really do any work on the header other than make it wrong. That header is the original from the old boiler, he just capped the old equalizer and put the new one in the wrong place.

BobC

Looking more closely proves you are right, that plug is new the rest of the header was probably existing.

A 27" monitor and i still have to use a magnifying glass sometimes.

Bob

KC_Jones

I just reviewed the manual for that boiler and they don't talk about skimming only using a boil out solution blah blah.

In the picture I am wondering what the connection I circled is? It seems to be at the correct height for skimming. To the OP get a better picture of that so we can tell if it can be used. Otherwise I agree the relief valve may be the only option.

coolfx35

Thanks everyone for their helpful comments, especially KC_Jones, someone that goes above and beyond.

KC_Jones

From the angle of that last pic, it wouldn't surprise me if that thing just stops working in the next day or 2. The header is going to fill with water and possibly block all steam from getting to the system. Either that or it's going to slam it all into the mains periodically and hammer like mad.

coolfx35

i am not sure you mean, so will correcting the equalizer solve my issue today or not? this guy is coming in 30 minutes, I can't make him read this post. LOL

I only had it running about 6 hours before turning off. One pipe was banging few times. Hopefully no damage was done to the new boiler itself.

SlamDunk

yes.

SlamDunk

And, he really should read these posts.

KC_Jones

Yes connecting the equalizer in the correct location fixes the issue. Think of it this way, when steam cools it turns to water, water runs downhill. Steam condenses in that header, now look at the pitch on those pipes and where the water is going to go.

coolfx35

thank you, I will see what he says. will keep you updated.

SeanBeans

best price, worst quality! Oh man!

EBEBRATT-Ed

Really, really don't understand how someone that knows steam could install that and not see a problem.

The thing that gets me is doing it right really wouldn't be any more work

coolfx35

He came and fixed the problem, when I told him about the banging, he realized what he did wrong and came prepared with all the pipes etc, thank guys for your help.

New boiler now running smooth.

Dan_NJ

coolfx35 said:

... he realized what he did wrong and came prepared with all the pipes etc,

Black iron pipes? Or is it still copper?

JohnNY

I won't mention the name of the company but this work is the trademark of one company out of the Union/Essex Counties of NJ that low bids everybody else and gets a ton of replacement jobs in the area. I lose work to them daily and I get people calling me a crook because my proposal was 30% higher than theirs. They absolutely refuse to install a boiler properly. Every one of them looks like this.
And if that's not enough, the most annoying thing about it is that a lot of the installations work at least quietly *somehow* and so no one pays them a second thought or questions any of it. They just pay.

ChrisJ

> @coolfx35 said:
> He came and fixed the problem, when I told him about the banging, he realized what he did wrong and came prepared with all the pipes etc, thank guys for your help.
>
> New boiler now running smooth.

Awesome news! Can we see pictures of the final work?

JohnNY

ChrisJ said:

> @coolfx35 said:


Awesome news! Can we see pictures of the final work?

Exactly. There's no chance whatsoever this went well.

pecmsg

Pro Press!

Dave0176

Funny thing is Crown sells piping kits for that boiler in one or two risers, can’t get more simpler than that.

EBEBRATT-Ed

Steam is not as forgiving as hot water.

But we have all seen jobs that work even though they were butchered. Sometimes they just do.

Take an oversized boiler with a undersized header and slow vents. Steam flow is slowed so it works quietly just not efficiently