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The Holy Grail of boiler install pics…for your viewing pleasure

Timco
Timco Member Posts: 3,040
edited January 2022 in THE MAIN WALL
From a hydronic heating FB site I follow. 
Just a guy running some pipes.
delcrossvCorktownDJD775Solid_Fuel_ManZmanEBEBRATT-EdMikeAmannSuperTechMaxMercyShahrdadIronmanairheaddelta T

Comments

  • delcrossv
    delcrossv Member Posts: 678
    Is there a boiler in there somewhere?
    Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.
    CorktownCanucker
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 4,695
    That’s a lot of scrap copper!
    PC7060SuperTechbilltheinspector
  • Corktown
    Corktown Member Posts: 34
    I think an optimist would view this installation as “concise”!

    Somehow this made me think of the Abbott and Costello “Who’s on first (What’s on second)” level of confusion…
    billtheinspector
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,726
    Where's my Sawzall?
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
    CorktowndelcrossvIronmanbilltheinspector
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 22,918
    Impressive.
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,021
    But how well does it heat?...or not?
  • JakeCK
    JakeCK Member Posts: 1,356
    Who did this? O.O
  • ScottSecor
    ScottSecor Member Posts: 841
    Looks well planned out.  Very logical layout. 
    billtheinspector
  • Paul Pollets
    Paul Pollets Member Posts: 3,656
    World class craftsmanship. Built to service easily and offer optimum efficiency!
    ShahrdadIronmanbilltheinspector
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 15,323
    I am sorry that i viewed this at all much less after eating.
    wmgeorgedelcrossvIronmanayetchvacker
  • Larry Weingarten
    Larry Weingarten Member Posts: 3,233
    Is there an emoji for “ I’m feeling sick to my stomach “? 🤮
  • MikeAmann
    MikeAmann Member Posts: 986
    JakeCK said:

    Who did this? O.O

    Little Billy from the Family Circus comic.
    Corktown
  • retiredguy
    retiredguy Member Posts: 883
    Wow, what an easy job to service or repair.
    rick in Alaska
  • SlamDunk
    SlamDunk Member Posts: 1,557
    It is a work of art! Marvelous!
    Joemach
  • MaxMercy
    MaxMercy Member Posts: 497
    To be fair, it wouldn't look nearly that bad if the sheet rock had been feathered and painted.
    CorktownSolid_Fuel_Man
  • psb75
    psb75 Member Posts: 807
    And the bags of pellets imply that there is a water softener nearby. Let's see that!
    jinbtown
  • Gsmith
    Gsmith Member Posts: 431
    this is a great training environment, there's at least one of everything.
    CorktownCLambjinbtown
  • bucksnort
    bucksnort Member Posts: 167
    edited January 2022
    Look where the relief valve dumps. They musta run out of pipe and called it a day. Where does one buy that nice green pipe by the Honeywell?
  • Shahrdad
    Shahrdad Member Posts: 120
    It looks almost like some sort of a calliope. Makes my eyes cross trying to figure out what's what.
    CorktownbucksnortMaxMercy
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 4,695
    You’d get really burned trying to hit that shut off!
  • ScottSecor
    ScottSecor Member Posts: 841
    I was just thinking to myself about the photo above and some of the others photos posted on HH lately. I bet many of them work relatively well, despite the less than optimal piping or reluctance to considering reading the installation manual.
  • Who installed this Dr. Suess???
    PC7060
  • bruce_21
    bruce_21 Member Posts: 241
    How did this come to be?
    This is the result of agreeing to put a boiler in a small closet and/or not demanding that a proper utility room be maintained when the basement was finished and the two story addition with 3 or more zones was put on. It needs to be explained to homeowners and architects and builders that mechanical systems shouldn't be pushed out of sight, but given the space needed to perform and be MAINTAINED properly.
  • AlanBrase
    AlanBrase Member Posts: 4
    bruce_21 said:

    How did this come to be?
    This is the result of agreeing to put a boiler in a small closet and/or not demanding that a proper utility room be maintained when the basement was finished and the two story addition with 3 or more zones was put on. It needs to be explained to homeowners and architects and builders that mechanical systems shouldn't be pushed out of sight, but given the space needed to perform and be MAINTAINED properly.

    Quite a good point made here, but one must look at this installation IN CONTEXT: It is easily a 30-35 year old installation. A modern day install would hopefully give another several feet to the sides around the boiler.
    And while many are talking shtuff about this, I actually think it is very well done. Keep in mind damned near every piece is original. True there are a couple sweat solder joints failing, and the relief valve has been replaced and re piped, but by and large EVERY OTHER PART looks to be original and functioning. And it was done to a high standard: iron pipe returns which give very strong support to the circulators; a BYPASS circulator; balancing valves with temperature gauges at every return. Isolation ball valves at very many places to allow repair without draining or shutting down the system.
    True, just off field to the left is a 4x4 electrical box with the cover off.
    Just how would you critical guys make this better in 2022? And will you warranty your work and materials for 35 years?
  • Nutjob
    Nutjob Member Posts: 7
    Did he work in submarines?
    delcrossvSuperTechjinbtown
  • unclejohn
    unclejohn Member Posts: 1,833
    It's all to protect the extrol tank
    MaxMercy
  • scott w.
    scott w. Member Posts: 207
    If I was a brand new heating tec and this was my first assigned repair job I would freak out and start thinking about another profession. Maybe head south where I only had to deal with air conditioning. Don't think you can do this to an air conditioner.
    Solid_Fuel_Man
  • gerry gill
    gerry gill Member Posts: 3,078
    Holy sheep s**t Batman!
    gwgillplumbingandheating.com
    Serving Cleveland's eastern suburbs from Cleveland Heights down to Cuyahoga Falls.

  • Daveinscranton
    Daveinscranton Member Posts: 148
    I have often thought that some things do not pair well.  Heavy drinking and commercial airline piloting.  Chain smoking and working with ether in a chemistry lab.  

    It is my belief that smoking meth and doing hydronic heat was problematic for this individual about 35 years ago.
    bucksnortSolid_Fuel_Man
  • fixitguy
    fixitguy Member Posts: 91
    edited February 2022
    In the real world, we Plumbers see lots of this stuff. This mess is going to get corrected as soon as the weather is warm enough to shut it down.
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 4,695
    fixitguy said:
    In the real world, we Plumbers see lots of this stuff. This mess is going to get corrected as soon as the weather is warm enough to shut it down.
    Starting with a sawz all 
    fixitguy