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Started a new steam install

Dave0176Dave0176 Member Posts: 617
edited March 19 in Strictly Steam
Working on putting a complete steam system in for Cypress Brewing Co here is Edison NJ. The brewery is being expanded to a 40 bbl system. Boiler is a Weil McLain 488 with a Power Flame gas burner. Got the boiler in and put together today.






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Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving most of NJ
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  • Paul SPaul S Member Posts: 1,216
    Nice job @Dave0176 .... can't wait to see the finished product.... maybe I can swing by in person.... I'm in edison nj alot
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    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
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  • The Steam WhispererThe Steam Whisperer Member Posts: 113
    Yeah those are pretty heavy end sections on the 88, about 670 lbs, IIRC. If you want reaaally heavvvy , the Peerless TC II ends I believe are over 1000 lbs. Of course there's the monster WM 94.......don't know what those weigh.
  • EBEBRATT-EdEBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 2,205
    The front and back of a Smith 28 or a Weil 88 is more like 800-900lb. The 94 Weil is like 1500. Never did one of those, hope I never do.
  • Dave0176Dave0176 Member Posts: 617
    Yep the 88 rear section is like 900 lbs the front is 800. The intermediate sections are 600
    DL Mechanical LLC Heating & Cooling 732-266-5386
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving most of NJ
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/dl-mechanical-llc



    I cannot force people to spend money, I can only suggest how to spend it wisely.......
  • Dave0176Dave0176 Member Posts: 617
    I'm gonna run two 5" risers out into a 6" header. I'm running one 4" steam main up over to the kettle and hot liquor tank.
    DL Mechanical LLC Heating & Cooling 732-266-5386
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving most of NJ
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/dl-mechanical-llc



    I cannot force people to spend money, I can only suggest how to spend it wisely.......
  • Paul SPaul S Member Posts: 1,216
    How far do you have to run that 4 inch main? @Dave0176 .... that's probably the most back breaking part of the job
    ASM Mechanical Company
    Located in Staten Island NY
    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
    347-692-4777
    [email protected]
    ASMHVACNYC.COM
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/asm-mechanical-company
  • MilanDMilanD Member Posts: 685
    Nice! Glad there was a lot of space to work in. :smile:

    I see you are using condensate return tank - curious what traps will you use, if any?
  • Dave0176Dave0176 Member Posts: 617
    MilanD said:

    Nice! Glad there was a lot of space to work in. :smile:

    I see you are using condensate return tank - curious what traps will you use, if any?

    Actually using a condensate return tank and a boiler feed pump.

    Probably going to Hoffman or Mepco F&T traps. The boil kettle produces around 600lbs of condensate per hr, so 3/4 traps will be fine.
    DL Mechanical LLC Heating & Cooling 732-266-5386
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving most of NJ
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/dl-mechanical-llc



    I cannot force people to spend money, I can only suggest how to spend it wisely.......
  • jumperjumper Member Posts: 946
    Beautiful work but title excited me because I thought somebody was installing new steam heating.
  • GrallertGrallert Member Posts: 95
    Nice work space.
  • MilanDMilanD Member Posts: 685
    edited March 20
    > @Dave0176 said:
    > Nice! Glad there was a lot of space to work in. :smile:
    >
    > I see you are using condensate return tank - curious what traps will you use, if any?
    >
    > Actually using a condensate return tank and a boiler feed pump.
    >
    > Probably going to Hoffman or Mepco F&T traps. The boil kettle produces around 600lbs of condensate per hr, so 3/4 traps will be fine.

    Great!

    What's the daily/yearly expected run time on this boiler? I'm curious what the maintenance schedule will look like at a brewery application.

    Nice work. I hope you had some beer in your quote: like a case per week for a year... :smile:
  • Dave0176Dave0176 Member Posts: 617
    edited March 26
    Forgot to add the risers are 5" and the header is 6" Yes my back is now sore from that 60" pipe wrench.
    DL Mechanical LLC Heating & Cooling 732-266-5386
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving most of NJ
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/dl-mechanical-llc



    I cannot force people to spend money, I can only suggest how to spend it wisely.......
  • BobCBobC Member Posts: 4,374
    Now that is WORK, maybe it also explains why it's hard to get people to get into this line of work. A lot of the young I talk to seem only interested in writing the next great computer game. The idea of hard physical work is repugnant to them.

    That boiler is going to do a superb job of producing dry steam, you and your men are doing a great job.

    Bob
    Smith G8-3 with EZ Gas @ 90,000 BTU, Single pipe steam
    Vaporstat with a 12oz cut-out and 4oz cut-in
    3PSI gauge
  • Dave0176Dave0176 Member Posts: 617
    BobC said:

    Now that is WORK, maybe it also explains why it's hard to get people to get into this line of work. A lot of the young I talk to seem only interested in writing the next great computer game. The idea of hard physical work is repugnant to them.

    That boiler is going to do a superb job of producing dry steam, you and your men are doing a great job.

    Bob

    Yes Bob you are right, my brother whom is 21 yo was helping us and was good but it cut into his gaming and hanging with friends and he hasn't worked with us in over a year now.

    I find most young guys are useless with their hands except for holding a controller. Most don't even care about money because their parents spoil them including my pop. I'm 20 years older then my bro.
    DL Mechanical LLC Heating & Cooling 732-266-5386
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving most of NJ
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/dl-mechanical-llc



    I cannot force people to spend money, I can only suggest how to spend it wisely.......
  • FredFred Member Posts: 5,205
    Beautiful install!
  • MilanDMilanD Member Posts: 685
    > @Steamhead said:
    > Yes Bob you are right, my brother whom is 21 yo was helping us and was good but it cut into his gaming and hanging with friends and he hasn't worked with us in over a year now.
    >
    > I find most young guys are useless with their hands except for holding a controller. Most don't even care about money because their parents spoil them including my pop. I'm 20 years older then my bro.
    >
    > Amen.
    >
    > But you might tell him doing that kind of work is better than a gym membership since he doesn't have to pay for it............

    What's that new exercise thing called nowadays, with flipping tractor tires, cross-fit? How about boiler-fit? Lugging boilers and sections up and down stairs, piping, wrenching... 2 birds with 1 stone. Who's with me?
  • BobCBobC Member Posts: 4,374
    When I went to work for USPS it was because engineering jobs in my field were evaporating and I needed a job. When I went to work for them as a technician (mail sorting machines are complex and some have dozens of computers controlling them) I started out on the floor and within a few years they started to put new people under me to show them the ropes. A lot of these folks came from industrial jobs and lost their job just like me because of downsizing.

    When the market collapsed in 2008 we got guys in who had been white collar but their fields were devastated by the collapse of the economy. The ones who worked out had diversified work experience and fit right in. The ones who had never done anything else but operate a clipboard didn't do so well.

    The point is people do themselves a big favor when they take jobs that get them acquainted with real work. Computers will take over a lot of the code writing in a few years, you better have something to fall back on. Companies can't offshore the installation of boilers and minisplits.
    Smith G8-3 with EZ Gas @ 90,000 BTU, Single pipe steam
    Vaporstat with a 12oz cut-out and 4oz cut-in
    3PSI gauge
  • Dave0176Dave0176 Member Posts: 617
    edited April 2
    Another day more work








    DL Mechanical LLC Heating & Cooling 732-266-5386
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving most of NJ
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/dl-mechanical-llc



    I cannot force people to spend money, I can only suggest how to spend it wisely.......
  • Stephen MinnichStephen Minnich Member Posts: 1,751
    That's about as beautiful as it gets.
    It's all in the details.

    www.minnichmech.com
  • New England SteamWorksNew England SteamWorks Member Posts: 570
    That is some beautiful work @Dave0176. I am jealous as hell!
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  • Paul SPaul S Member Posts: 1,216
    Beautiful job @Dave0176
    ASM Mechanical Company
    Located in Staten Island NY
    Servicing all 5 boroughs of NYC.
    347-692-4777
    [email protected]
    ASMHVACNYC.COM
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  • MilanDMilanD Member Posts: 685
    Awesome!
  • Dave0176Dave0176 Member Posts: 617
    Got the steam main in place







    DL Mechanical LLC Heating & Cooling 732-266-5386
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving most of NJ
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/dl-mechanical-llc



    I cannot force people to spend money, I can only suggest how to spend it wisely.......
  • SteamheadSteamhead Member Posts: 11,212
    Years later, you'll see those pipes and think "I did that".

    Doesn't get better than that.
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  • KoanKoan Member Posts: 366
    real craftsmanship - work to be proud of.
  • Dave0176Dave0176 Member Posts: 617
    Three inch gas line is in place....

    DL Mechanical LLC Heating & Cooling 732-266-5386
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving most of NJ
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/dl-mechanical-llc



    I cannot force people to spend money, I can only suggest how to spend it wisely.......
  • Dave0176Dave0176 Member Posts: 617
    Update as we are coming along.





    DL Mechanical LLC Heating & Cooling 732-266-5386
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving most of NJ
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/dl-mechanical-llc



    I cannot force people to spend money, I can only suggest how to spend it wisely.......
  • LionA29LionA29 Member Posts: 243
    Beautiful Job as always @Dave0176 !!
  • ScottSecorScottSecor Member Posts: 42
    Nice job. Pretty rare we see a new steam system in any building or home. To me at least it seems odd that you get to install the boiler, piping, traps, condensate tank, boiler feed tank, etc wherever you want. We're used to dealing what was there for the last century or so most of the time and making the new equipment work.
  • Dave0176Dave0176 Member Posts: 617
    edited April 30
    More work more assembly......










    DL Mechanical LLC Heating & Cooling 732-266-5386
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving most of NJ
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/dl-mechanical-llc



    I cannot force people to spend money, I can only suggest how to spend it wisely.......
  • Dave0176Dave0176 Member Posts: 617

    DL Mechanical LLC Heating & Cooling 732-266-5386
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving most of NJ
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/dl-mechanical-llc



    I cannot force people to spend money, I can only suggest how to spend it wisely.......
  • Dave0176Dave0176 Member Posts: 617





    DL Mechanical LLC Heating & Cooling 732-266-5386
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving most of NJ
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/dl-mechanical-llc



    I cannot force people to spend money, I can only suggest how to spend it wisely.......
  • j aj a Member Posts: 1,516
    Nice job
  • SeanBeansSeanBeans Member Posts: 82
    Awesome! Next time im in the area im going to stop in and ask them to check out their brand spankin' steam system.
  • Dave0176Dave0176 Member Posts: 617
    edited May 17
    Few more shots, @Sailah Barnes and Jones on display......





    DL Mechanical LLC Heating & Cooling 732-266-5386
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving most of NJ
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/dl-mechanical-llc



    I cannot force people to spend money, I can only suggest how to spend it wisely.......
  • Dave0176Dave0176 Member Posts: 617
    edited May 25
    Final pics of the install. This was challenging to say the least but I managed, for the most part this job was done with the help of my 65 yo father who can work circles around some youngins today. A good friend of mine provided the added muscle for the big stuff. Pop don't care for heights anymore either, lol. Just have to wire it and wait for final inspections.











    DL Mechanical LLC Heating & Cooling 732-266-5386
    Specializing in Steam Heating, Serving most of NJ
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/dl-mechanical-llc



    I cannot force people to spend money, I can only suggest how to spend it wisely.......
  • lchmblchmb Member Posts: 2,472
    wow...
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