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CO Event at Marysville, OH Hotel

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  • ScottSecor
    ScottSecor Member Posts: 851
    That's scary. Hope every victim has a speedy recovery. Please keep us informed if you learn the cause, maybe we'll all learn something.
  • captainco
    captainco Member Posts: 792
    Steamhead you beat me to it. I have for years taught in class, based on personal experience, that hotels and pool heaters, by percentage, cause CO poisonings more than anything I have tested. What I mean is that 75% of the hotels I have tested had unsafe equipment, usually water heaters and pool heaters, Last time was a Holiday Inn Express I stayed in near Hershey Pa, in 2020. Personal monitor went off as soon as I entered the lobby to check in.
    Zman
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 15,453
    Lack of maintenance like everything else I am sure. Hope they all recover
  • captainco
    captainco Member Posts: 792
    13 persons CO poisoned in the pool area and they can't figure out the source? If a fire department, that consumers depend on to save them from CO poisoning can't figure out the source in this situation, how many other consumers at risk because of fire departments lack of training in this area? Having dealt personally with fire departments all over the country and reading stories about their responses to CO incidents, they still remain #2 on my CO ignorant list.
    DrewMZmanpecmsg
  • flat_twin
    flat_twin Member Posts: 350
    This story is on our local tv news. Today they said the pool heater was at fault. It had been serviced last Thursday. A fire department rep said their CO meters had never detected a level that high. He said it was beyond the range limits of the CO meter. They also said the CO detector at the hotel was not working.
  • captainco
    captainco Member Posts: 792
    Amazing! People swimming in a pool get poisoned and they figured out it was the pool heater. I have tested dozens of pool heaters, in homes, apartments complexes, hotels etc., So far I found only one operating safe and it was an induced draft pool heater in a hotel in Louisville, Ky. Guess how many pool heaters are serviced by someone with a combustion analyzer and know how to use it?
    Ironman
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 15,587
    captainco said:

    Amazing! People swimming in a pool get poisoned and they figured out it was the pool heater. I have tested dozens of pool heaters, in homes, apartments complexes, hotels etc., So far I found only one operating safe and it was an induced draft pool heater in a hotel in Louisville, Ky. Guess how many pool heaters are serviced by someone with a combustion analyzer and know how to use it?

    Why are the pool heaters venting into the livingspace?
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,796
    flat_twin said:

    This story is on our local tv news. Today they said the pool heater was at fault. It had been serviced last Thursday. A fire department rep said their CO meters had never detected a level that high. He said it was beyond the range limits of the CO meter. They also said the CO detector at the hotel was not working.

    "Serviced last Thursday"............ now high CO.......... looks like some "tech" should not be in the business.
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
    Ironmanmattmia2
  • Zman
    Zman Member Posts: 7,561
    Dedicated pool boilers are the worst. Most are piped so they condense, very few are properly maintained, and the pool chemicals are eating them 24/7/365.
    I just finished a big commercial pool project using heat exchangers fed from a boiler plant located in another part of the building. This makes me sleep much better.
    "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough"
    Albert Einstein
  • captainco
    captainco Member Posts: 792
    Chris they are vented to the outside but they have one of the worst performing drafthoods. Things only rust and corrode because they are not operating properly, not because of chemicals. When you see rust on equipment something needs to be fixed! If we keep blaming chemicals instead of our lack of understanding of the problem, more people will get hut.
    ChrisJmattmia2
  • JakeCK
    JakeCK Member Posts: 1,356
    edited February 2022
    Just read an update on this. They believe it was caused by a plastic bag covering the air intake for the room. The pool wasn't even permitted to be used due to safety violations concerning lack of chlorine and a caved in floor tile. There is a laundry list of other unrelated violations too including unpermitted and unsafe electrical work and a dry sprinkler system.

    Maybe this is why I bought a camper. 

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dispatch.com/amp/6676049001

  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 7,367
    “Maintenance people replacing a pool heater”. In other words, the same guys who can’t fix the toe kick drain in the shower are allowed to change out a gas heater which they are clueless about. This is on management for not using a qualified licensed contractor.
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
    Zman
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,796
    Ironman said:

    “Maintenance people replacing a pool heater”. In other words, the same guys who can’t fix the toe kick drain in the shower are allowed to change out a gas heater which they are clueless about. This is on management for not using a qualified licensed contractor.

    You can't fix stupid.....................
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting