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near toilet floor constantly wet

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  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 17,217

    is this standing water and a water line at the surface of that water on that pipe?

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  • azward
    azward Member Posts: 89

    Likely light effects.

    I need to take a closer look.

  • psb75
    psb75 Member Posts: 1,148

    Any answer to picture of "screw in pipe"?

  • azward
    azward Member Posts: 89

    Need to take a closer look.

    Could be due to the perspective. It's not easy to drive a screw into a round tubing surface. If the screw did nail into the tubing, the leak should be much faster.

  • PC7060
    PC7060 Member Posts: 1,832
    edited April 12

    I’ve seen plenty of screws and nails in pipes with only minor leaking after a period of time due to the iron corrosion closing the hole

    Larry Weingartenmattmia2Intplm.
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 17,217

    the sharp point if the screw makes it pretty easy to bite in to the pipe. looks like they were going for the steel stud next to it.

    Intplm.
  • azward
    azward Member Posts: 89

    The screw didn't puncture into the tube. It was close, but the tube has held up for decades..

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    Above is another example of a close call.

    I did found one leaking rusty fitting due to corrosion.

    It will be terriblely difficult to remove this type of fitting. What's the common approach to replace the corroded section, after opening the wall?

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  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 17,217

    you can sometimes cut a fitting off a nipple or a nipple out of a fitting and screw a pcv adapter on to it. i think certain types of ferncos are permitted inside a wall. i would replace as much as i can because galvanized waste has about a 60-70 year lifespan and they stopped using it about 60 years ago. anything that is a vent should be ok but anything that gets wet is likely near the end of its life.

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 17,217

    or is that supply pipe? supply pipe is usually a little easier to get to unscrew. i can't tell the size from the pictures.

  • azward
    azward Member Posts: 89

    It's roughly this area

    There is a cement board behind the tiles

    What approach do you follow for cutting and restoration after the repair?

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  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 17,217

    unless you have ore tile i would go from the other side of the wall

    PeteA
  • azward
    azward Member Posts: 89

    this is the ground floor so I prefer cutting from the front side

    from the otherside, i don't know what i'm cutting into, questions like, are the laths i'm cutting partially structural? etc.

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 17,217

    wood lath under lath and plaster is not structural although you need to be careful how you cut it so you don't break the rest of the plaster off of it

  • azward
    azward Member Posts: 89

    any practical steps to replace a rusty frozen T in a steam wet return (both pipes and T are black iron)?

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 17,217

    cast fittings can be cracked by backing up the fitting with one hammer and hitting it with another hammer.

    fittings can be cut off of nipples by cutting almost to the threads and splitting them. nipples can be cut out of fittings by cutting almost to the threads in 2 places then using a small chisel or punch to break out the piece in between. if you get lucky you can unscrew it with a pair of pipe wrenches, possibly with pieces of pipe or tubing over the handles to increase the force, make sure you seat the back of the wrench on the pipe to reduce the chance of crushing. wet return piping can be replaced with copper.

  • azward
    azward Member Posts: 89
    edited May 6

    I have never tried a hammer on a fitting.

    I see the cut point can be chosen to preserve the threads on either the pipe or the fitting.

    but after cutting off the T (preserving the pipe threads), how to get a new stainless steel or black iron T in? I need a new T there to provide a branch