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Best nest thermostat-Experts recommendations to choose

habib386
habib386 Member Posts: 1

I researched the best smart thermostats as my energy bills have been getting higher every season and I really want to cut down on costs while keeping the house comfortable. i have been experiencing issues with uneven heating/cooling and it gets frustrating trying to manually adjust all the time. i went through reviews from trusted sources like Wirecutter, CNET, and Consumer Reports and after comparing many options these two kept coming up as the top choices:

Google Nest Learning Thermostat (4th Gen, 2024)

https://www.amazon.com/Google-Learning-Thermostat-Temperature-Sensor/dp/B0D5BBYRJM/?th=1


ecobee Smart Thermostat Premium
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09XXS48P8/?th=1


however, i am having trouble deciding which one would be better for me and i would love to get your expert advice and hoping maybe some HVAC professionals or homeowners with experience on this forum can also share their advice.
i usually work from home most days so having accurate scheduling and room comfort is important for me. would either of these be more recommended for my situation? Any suggestions or advice would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

mattmia2

Comments

  • SuperTech
    SuperTech Member Posts: 2,618

    The thermostat is not capable of changing the heating needs of the building. You need X amount of BTUs to heat the place to X temperature when it is cold outside. If you want to save money reduce the heat loss of the building. Weatherstripping, insulation and air sealing usually do the job better than changing thermostats.

    In my opinion the best choice is not using a Nest thermostat at all. Save yourself a lot of trouble in the future. If you want WiFi control get a Honeywell or Ecobee

    IronmanPC7060mattmia2
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 7,749

    What type of heating system do you have? Steam, hot water, forced air? What fuel source?

    If you have an hydronic, steam or any type of modulating equipment, then a Nest is the worst possible choice.

    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
    SuperTech
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 26,272

    I will add a bit to the above. You mention that you have "issues with uneven heating/cooling". No thermostat — however smart or dumb — is going to help with that. As @SuperTech said, step one is going to be reducing the heating load — storm windows, weatherstipping and draught sealing, maybe some extra insulation (or just some!). Step two is going to be get your heating system properly balanced so you don't have uneven heating and cooling, or at least it is more even.

    Step three has to do with temperature control. The thermostat. The most even and comfortable heating will come from a system, including the thermostat, which is not chasing a target. That means that the thermostat, in particular, sets a temperature target — and holds it. Now this doesn't mean you can't save (some) with a mild night setback — a few degrees. What it does mean is that you aren't constantly chasing the temperature up and down.

    Which is what "smart" thermostats are intended to do.

    Therefore, if you insist on a "smart" thermostat, I'd pick one of the Ecobees — and dive into its settings and cancel all the room occupancy or other similar features. Nests do work, and are even not too bad with forced air heat, but they are difficult to install on anything other than a very plain vanilla forced air heat system and they are VERY hard to configure properly to play will with any form of hot water or steam heat.

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
    IronmanEdTheHeaterManhabib386
  • dabrakeman
    dabrakeman Member Posts: 772

    Although I like the Ecobee with my steam system I would suggest you provide a little more information relative to your system and the nature of the problem you are trying to resolve. You could have a balance situation or maybe too much swing between cycles? All we can do now is speculate…

  • PC7060
    PC7060 Member Posts: 1,712
    edited August 26

    "If you want WiFi control get a Honeywell or Ecobee"

    ^^^^^ this.

    I've got 6 Honeywell 9000 series in several offices. Scheduling function is great and temperature control performs well for Hydronics and HP.

  • ratio
    ratio Member Posts: 4,097

    +1 for Honeywell 9000 or 8000 (my fav) series. Reliable, easy to install, easy to use. The T series isn't an improvement.

    hot_rod
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 10,879

    @habib386 , I see that you asked about a thermostat and there are answers that did not quite answer the question that you actually asked. This can be irritating, as you have already decided that a thermostat will solve your problem. So I would tell you that the thermostat you want to use to lower your fuel usage will be a Honeywell. The name has changed to Resideo but the thermostats are the same.

    Now… so you know, a thermostat can only turn on and turn off the fuel based on the temperature set point you choose (or is chosen for you by the smart thermostat). The thermostat can not change your ductwork or your piping to radiators. If you have uneven heating as a result of a poor design or aging of the system, any thermostat you currently have, or decide to change to can not fix that problem. to make your house have even heat, you need to give more information because a duct system is adjusted differently that a radiator piping system. A steam piping system is adjusted differently that a hot water piping system.

    The other suggestions are only suggestions based on your statement "i have been experiencing issues with uneven heating/cooling and it gets frustrating trying to manually adjust all the time". with this information, I can only guess that you have a single zone duct system in a two story home. This duct system may be poorly designed because the designer of the duct system tried to get cooling and heating to work in the same ducts and that is never easy.

    If I am getting close to describing your system, perhaps I can help. Can you take some pictures of your heater and some of the heat outlets in each room?

    Ed

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

    Ironman
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 6,390

    ecobee

    With that said a t stat won’t lower your energy bills. If you want to save money tighten the envelope. Have a blower door test performed, find and fix the leaks.
    get a properly sized heating system.

  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 18,392

    Replacing thermostats on a system that does not heat well will generally not work

  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 25,510

    My Ecobee, and probably other smart stats allow multiple sensors. I have wireless sensors in the basement, and under the kitchen sink to protect at risk plumbing. So it watches 3 temperature zones.

    My app shows all temperature conditions.

    If I ask it to maintain a basement temperature, when we have guests down there, it may over-shoot upstairs a small; amount. But at least the guests are not shivering, and fuming :) It is treating a symptom, not the problem, but a lot better than nothing at all.

    So a bit more control flexibility that just an air sensor at the one wall location.

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
    EdTheHeaterMan
  • dabrakeman
    dabrakeman Member Posts: 772

    Since the OP posted in the "Strictly Steam" forum I may have jumped to the conclusion he had a steam system… Silly me.

    EdTheHeaterMan