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Why pull through airhandlers?

I've been trying to understand this for almost 10 years now.

Why do many air handlers, if not most, use a pull through design with the blower on the supply side of the evaporator, instead of it behind the evaporator like on furnace + AC designs?

It seems like besides the airhandler having a tendency to pull air in (often hot attic air), and needing a condensate trap that can often clog it also places the blower in an extremely damp, even wet environment. Why? What is the reasoning?

Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

Comments

  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 5,836

    I thought it was about equal. 1/2 Shcking 1/2 blowing.

    ChrisJ
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,537

    You're probably right, but why are any of them pull through?

    I see the same thing on minisplits, and the blower wheels often get all clogged up with dust because it's so damp and nasty.

    This isn't by mistake, so I have to think there's a bunch of pros to the design, but what?

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 5,836
    edited 12:39PM

    Engineers know better then us!🤬

    Oversized minis build up that crap. same as oversized central units.

  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,537

    I understand why minisplits would, but why do oversized central units do it? The blower isn't usually variable like a mini.

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 5,836

    it’s still in a high RH Environment. Anything down stream of the evaporator is near 100%RH

    ChrisJ
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,537

    I understand that, but that's going to be the case regardless of how the system is sized, no?

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 10,319

    Colder air is more dense that hotter air. The blower moves more pounds of air if it is on the cold side of the equipment. A cubic foot of 40° air weighs more than a cubic foot of 80° air. and since the fan moves cubic feet of air and the actual thermodynamics of the BTUs moved by the air is a relationship of the pounds of air moved, you get more bang for your buck putting the fan in the colder air.

    I thought everyone realized that.

    Push air thru the furnace and pull air thru the refrigerated coil.

    Why is the refrigeration coil placed on the discharge side of a furnace? It is easier. Not because it is better. And since all the ratings are based on the easier "Coil on discharge" applications, they even do it on down-flow and horizontal furnaces so they dont need two different performance specifications.

    And the Engineers don't believe that we mere mortals can handle two different charts based on where the coil is located.

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

    SlamDunk
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 5,836
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,537

    Have you seen how many steam boilers are piped?

    I don't blame the engineers.

    I did realize about air density, but I didn't think it would matter much in this scenario, but I have a feeling you hit the nail on the head.

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

    mattmia2
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 5,836

    RTU's are a good example, the evaporator is upstream on the heat exchanger. This causes rusting and early failure of the heat exchanger!

    ChrisJmattmia2SuperTech
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,537

    I'm going to guess such damage is rarely covered by warranty?

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 5,836

    I believe there’s only five years on the heat exchanger in an RTU

  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 10,319

    No Engineering blame here…. The engineers have it correct most of the time (On Paper). It is us mere mortals that can't understand how to implement what they write on the paper. LOL

    Now is that because the people that work in the field can't understand the language of the engineer or the engineer can't speak in a normal language that mortals can understand?

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,537

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

    EdTheHeaterMan
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 12,137