How to calculate EDR for dummies

A lot has been posted on knowing EDR to match boiler size and thought this Link would give residential homeowners a better understanding on how to measure EDR on their own
I read in a post the other day the EDR # should correspond to the Steam Sq. # on the boiler label plate
Im an amateur with steam heat, so don't hold me to this info. and follow professional advice
All the best,
RTW
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The book Every Darn Radiator is more accurate. But this will "ballpark" you.
Not sure about the x1.25 to get boiler size as SqFt of steam on the boiler plate already includes a 33% pickup factor. Adding another 25% would get you well oversized.
Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.0 -
One of the problems with the guide at
is that it only mentions one type of tubular radiator. In fact their are two and they are greatly different. The first version of tubular radiators had thicker section, mearsuring 2.5" on center, the same as most column radiators. Then, the slenderized version came on to the market with a section dimension of 1.75" thick.
Dave in Quad Cities, America
Weil-McLain 680 with Riello 2-stage burner, December 2012. Firing rate=375MBH Low, 690MBH Hi.
System = Early Dunham 2-pipe Vacuo-Vapor (inlet and outlet both at bottom of radiators) Traps are Dunham #2 rebuilt w. Barnes-Jones Cage Units, Dunham-Bush 1E, Mepco 1E, and Armstrong TS-2. All valves haveTunstall orifices sized at 8 oz.
Current connected load EDR= 1,259 sq ft, Original system EDR = 2,100 sq ft Vaporstat, 13 oz cutout, 4 oz cutin - Temp. control Tekmar 279.
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Another good EDR guide comes from an old ASHRAE guide book. I have been using this guide since 1982. More exact EDR ratings from the manufacturers is even more accurate and Dan has a ton of those in his publication, EDR - Every Darned Radiator.
Dave in Quad Cities, America
Weil-McLain 680 with Riello 2-stage burner, December 2012. Firing rate=375MBH Low, 690MBH Hi.
System = Early Dunham 2-pipe Vacuo-Vapor (inlet and outlet both at bottom of radiators) Traps are Dunham #2 rebuilt w. Barnes-Jones Cage Units, Dunham-Bush 1E, Mepco 1E, and Armstrong TS-2. All valves haveTunstall orifices sized at 8 oz.
Current connected load EDR= 1,259 sq ft, Original system EDR = 2,100 sq ft Vaporstat, 13 oz cutout, 4 oz cutin - Temp. control Tekmar 279.
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The EDR is equally needed when sizing vacuum and condensate pumps for 2 pipe systems.
Whenever I'm asked about replacement pumps or system problems, and ask what is the system's EDR, no-one yet, ever, has given me this information based on an actual survey of the radiation.
So that leaves me with having to rely on the steaming capacity of the boiler plant, or the pumping capacity of the old equipment.
And then they wonder why the new equipment doesn't work any better than the old stuff did. Doing the same thing and expecting a different result is………………
Dennis Pataki. Former Service Manager and Heating Pump Product Manager for Nash Engineering Company. Phone: 1-888 853 9963
Website: www.nashjenningspumps.com
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Thanks, I was sure I'd seen one with 'depths' dimensions but could not turn it up!
Stupid question: do all the mains and risers not go into the EDR calc in any way? There's a lot of surface area there!
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