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Yoga Pipe

BDR529
BDR529 Member Posts: 309
in A-C, Heat Pumps & Refrigeration
Seen it in new construction. Good Gawd man! In short PeX for refrigeration
Weed wakers, U-V resistant?, Pressures,fastening system. Approvals?

Whats your 2 Cents? How did this make it into the trade

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  • Jolly Bodger
    Jolly Bodger Member Posts: 209
    50 year life expectancy? Don't think I would bury it in a wall.
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,260
    Jolly Bodger said:

    50 year life expectancy? Don't think I would bury it in a wall.

    Why?
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 9,269
    Mr. McGuire said it in 1967! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dug-G9xVdVs

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

    Intplm.
  • Jolly Bodger
    Jolly Bodger Member Posts: 209
    @ChrisJ Why the limited life expectancy? What causes it to degrade?

    Also: nails.
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,260
    Jolly Bodger said:

    @ChrisJ Why the limited life expectancy? What causes it to degrade?

    Also: nails.

    The life expectancy of copper is generally considered 50 years as well. Copper also doesn't resist nails very well either. I suspect that's where their number comes from. It doesn't necessarily mean it won't go 100+. That said, with the average life of the garbage equipment being installed and musical refrigerants I don't see it being an issue. A new lineset will probably be run within 15-20 years.


    I'm not saying I'm for plastic refrigeration piping and linesets.
    But, as of right now I also do not see any actual problems either which is why I asked.



    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
    ethicalpaulCanucker
  • Jolly Bodger
    Jolly Bodger Member Posts: 209
    @ChrisJ and those are reasons I would try to not bury a lineset at all. I agree that Tech progresses and equipment does not last. I will let others be the guinea pigs and join in when it becomes a time tested tech. polybutene pipe and aluminum wire come to mind.
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,260
    edited December 2019
    Jolly Bodger said:

    @ChrisJ and those are reasons I would try to not bury a lineset at all. I agree that Tech progresses and equipment does not last. I will let others be the guinea pigs and join in when it becomes a time tested tech. polybutene pipe and aluminum wire come to mind.

    Aluminum wire is perfectly fine and used all around us. Look up at any power lines around you.


    Improper installation procedures is what caused the failure in home wiring.

    I cannot blame you for waiting.
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • Jolly Bodger
    Jolly Bodger Member Posts: 209
    @ChrisJ Yes, Aluminum wiring is good for feeders but not allowed for branch circuits. I agree, install and application make a big difference.
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 5,271
    > @BDR529 said:
    > Seen it in new construction. Good Gawd man! In short PeX for refrigeration
    > Weed wakers, U-V resistant?, Pressures,fastening system. Approvals?
    >
    > Whats your 2 Cents? How did this make it into the trade

    Got a link?
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,260
    pecmsg said:

    > @BDR529 said:

    > Seen it in new construction. Good Gawd man! In short PeX for refrigeration

    > Weed wakers, U-V resistant?, Pressures,fastening system. Approvals?

    >

    > Whats your 2 Cents? How did this make it into the trade



    Got a link?

    https://www.yogapipe.com/
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 10,820
    The problem with aluminum branch circuit wiring was not the wire itself but that wiring devices not suitable for use with it were listed as suitable for use with it.(and even with suitable devices, the talent to install those devices properly wasn't available).
    ChrisJCanucker
  • Jolly Bodger
    Jolly Bodger Member Posts: 209
    and the fact that just R&R the device would weaken the wire
    mattmia2
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,260
    Jolly Bodger said:

    and the fact that just R&R the device would weaken the wire

    Rest and relaxation?

    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • Jolly Bodger
    Jolly Bodger Member Posts: 209
    @ChrisJ Remove and Reinstall.
  • BDR529
    BDR529 Member Posts: 309
    EdTheHeaterMan said:

    Mr. McGuire said it in 1967! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dug-G9xVdVs

    So true..
  • BDR529
    BDR529 Member Posts: 309
    Handy homeowner loves these new products!

  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,260
    edited December 2019
    > @BDR529 said:
    > Handy homeowner loves these new products!

    Yes, it's not like the propress or pex industry isn't booming with contractors eh? And we all know everyone is running cast iron for drains....... Only handy homeowners are running easy PVC........


    I'm all for these threads if they're about sharing facts and experiences and are kept respectful.
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
    Intplm.CanuckerDZoro
  • BDR529
    BDR529 Member Posts: 309
    No, the problem is not just the handy homeowners as we know.

    Have seen the line set taken out with the weed wacker. Thats not the only guy with a trimmer and/or landscape company.



  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 10,820
    It is undoubtedly about the price of copper...
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 10,820
    Apparently they didn't read the part of the manual about arranging the lineset so that the oil returns to the compressor...
    https://www.yogapipe.com/yogapipe/images/YogaPipe_ACR.jpg
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 16,260
    mattmia2 said:

    Apparently they didn't read the part of the manual about arranging the lineset so that the oil returns to the compressor...
    https://www.yogapipe.com/yogapipe/images/YogaPipe_ACR.jpg

    Depends on the velocity through the suction line.
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
    mattmia2
  • unclejohn
    unclejohn Member Posts: 1,833
    I saw some flex refrig pipe today and was gonna take a picture and show the leak but I didn't you have to take my word for it. All this means is that anybody can run pipe now. But can they replace the compressor when it fails?
    Ironmanmattmia2

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