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Ironman
Ironman Member Posts: 6,555
This job is a remodel of an old Victorian with a new addition. The upper circulator serves the old section which has a monoflo loop and CI rads. The new part will connect to the Cross manifold and it has a combination of CI rads and new Baseray.

We did enough to get the boiler fired off to heat the indirect. More pics and info to come.




Bob Boan
You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
ZmanSTEVEusaPA

Comments

  • Solid_Fuel_Man
    Solid_Fuel_Man Member Posts: 2,304
    Are you using 2 or 3" Bob?
    Serving Northern Maine HVAC & Controls. I burn wood, it smells good!
  • Solid_Fuel_Man
    Solid_Fuel_Man Member Posts: 2,304
    How do you like the Cross manifolds? Never seen those.
    Serving Northern Maine HVAC & Controls. I burn wood, it smells good!
  • STEVEusaPA
    STEVEusaPA Member Posts: 5,302
    edited September 2019
    Awesome as always. I want to work for Bob when I grow up.
    I’m sure you were under the gun to get the hw on.
    Too bad you couldn’t paint the plywood.
    steve
    Ironman
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 6,555
    I tried to get the HO to paint it black to no avail.
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 6,555

    Are you using 2 or 3" Bob?

    3" X x 1 1/4".

    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
    Solid_Fuel_Man
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 6,555

    How do you like the Cross manifolds? Never seen those.

    This is the second job we've installed them on, but haven't fired them off yet.

    They're easy to install, my only complaints are that they don't offer the connectors in 5/8" and you can't swap the supply and return manifold positions. You can rotate them, but not swap.

    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
    Solid_Fuel_Man
  • GroundUp
    GroundUp Member Posts: 1,281
    Looking good! I just geared up for a similar setup this afternoon, UFT-100W and SSU-45 going in a 3 zone radiant shed/house combo with Cross manifolds.

    Side note: Someone pointed out to me awhile ago that on page 18 of the manual it states that only brass, copper, or SS fittings can be used in the system- which is funny given they provide black fittings for the relief. Ever get any grief on that?
    Ironman
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 6,555
    GroundUp said:

    Looking good! I just geared up for a similar setup this afternoon, UFT-100W and SSU-45 going in a 3 zone radiant shed/house combo with Cross manifolds.

    Side note: Someone pointed out to me awhile ago that on page 18 of the manual it states that only brass, copper, or SS fittings can be used in the system- which is funny given they provide black fittings for the relief. Ever get any grief on that?

    I've never heard of that, nor can I find it in the I/O manual.

    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • GroundUp
    GroundUp Member Posts: 1,281
    Page 18, in one of those shaded boxes in the upper left that nobody ever reads. Says something about dielectric unions and galvanized fittings voiding the warranty, then follows up with brass, copper, or SS only. I don't have it in front of me at the moment but I know it's on page 18. Kind of a poorly worded statement like several other things in the I/O but I'd have a hard time believing they'd void a warranty over malleable fittings. Worth taking a look for yourself and see what you think
  • EzzyT
    EzzyT Member Posts: 1,167
    I just read that part in the manual and states nothing about the use of black pipe and fittings voiding warranty just says galvanized fittings and dielectric unions.
  • Solid_Fuel_Man
    Solid_Fuel_Man Member Posts: 2,304
    I would think that if a boiler manufacturer said that black iron/steel would void the warranty, that rules out pretty much any system retrofit. Or any water system installed before about 1960, which would be 100% iron.
    Serving Northern Maine HVAC & Controls. I burn wood, it smells good!
    Ironman
  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 489
    Love the piping ... So you make up your own LLH ? What's the line going out of the top of the LLH?

    How do you like the HTP? -- I have to pick a boiler soon (propane)
  • Canucker
    Canucker Member Posts: 700
    I don't want to speak for @Ironman but I believe that is the make up water line connected to the top
    You can have it good, fast or cheap. Pick two
    Ironman
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 6,555
    TAG said:

    Love the piping ... So you make up your own LLH ? What's the line going out of the top of the LLH?

    How do you like the HTP? -- I have to pick a boiler soon (propane)

    Makeup water and vent.

    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 489
    You like the HTP boiler / indirect set up?

    Wish I could find someone in bucks county PA
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 6,555
    TAG said:

    You like the HTP boiler / indirect set up?

    Wish I could find someone in bucks county PA

    I wouldn't use it if I didn't like it.

    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
    GroundUp
  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 489
    Got it .... Although sometimes things get specified. Seems everybody has a reason to love or hate the same boiler. In my area most of the installers seem to have moved from Viessmann -- because of unresolved warranty issues.

    So I'm looking for another make.
  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 489
    No more pictures ... ? I like the setup ... are you adding mixing motors or are they static valves.

    The manifolds are cool -- a bit expensive. I'm not sure if they will give me anything with my new house mostly warm board