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Used/Refurbished Rads

IronmanIronman Posts: 4,368Member
Does anyone know of a good source for used/refurbished rad's in the eastern U.S.?
Bob Boan







You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.

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  • ShalomShalom Posts: 106Member
    They generally show up on Craigslist, at least in the NYC and surrounding areas.
  • SteamheadSteamhead Posts: 12,293Member
    We have some. What exactly do you need?
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  • IronmanIronman Posts: 4,368Member
    Hot water. I just looked at job where the customer wants to put CI rad's and Baseray in an older house with an addition being added.
    I haven't done a load calc yet, so IDK the sizes. The original house is a typical "4 square", 32' X 32', two story, 4 rooms each floor. So, it looks like several of them will be the same size.
    Bob Boan







    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • The Steam WhispererThe Steam Whisperer Posts: 239Member
    You may be able to just reuse what's in the house. When an addition is added, the heat loss of the adjacent spaces drops dramatically.... sometimes to zero. Generally, the heat loss of the expanded house is often the same or lower than the original home, assuming quality installation of the insulation and proper attention to air sealing ( which is not the norm, however).
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  • IronmanIronman Posts: 4,368Member
    The house now has convectors connected to old monoflo piping that's busted. The owner wants CI rad's in the old part and Baseray in the new.

    I'm planning on a home run system with manifolds and TRVs.

    I'm trying to find a source for refurbished rads. There used to be one somewhere in the NYC area, but I can't find any info on it now.
    Bob Boan







    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • SteamheadSteamhead Posts: 12,293Member
    Ecorad bought out A1 plumbing supply and they are now in MA:

    https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/162093/a1-radiators-new-owners
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    "Reducing our country's energy consumption, one system at a time"
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Baltimore, MD (USA) and consulting anywhere.
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  • bob eckbob eck Posts: 746Member
    Where are you located at. I can get you Governale cast iron radiators and cast iron baseboard
  • IronmanIronman Posts: 4,368Member
    bob eck said:

    Where are you located at. I can get you Governale cast iron radiators and cast iron baseboard

    Virginia.

    Bob Boan







    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • bob eckbob eck Posts: 746Member
    We get new cast iron radiators from Governale
    Check out their radiators at
    www.governalerad.com
    I can get you pricing and ship them to you freight or you can go on a road trip to Allentown PA to pick them up.
  • IronmanIronman Posts: 4,368Member
    edited May 7
    I sent the owner a Burnham version brochure to consider as an option. I'm guessing that if he goes this route, it will be the decorative style for the old section and Baseray for the new.

    I'll let you know if he decides this way.
    Bob Boan







    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • SteamheadSteamhead Posts: 12,293Member
    Ironman said:

    bob eck said:

    Where are you located at. I can get you Governale cast iron radiators and cast iron baseboard

    Virginia.

    Where in VA? If you're close to DC I know a couple places there that have radiators.............
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    "Reducing our country's energy consumption, one system at a time"
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Baltimore, MD (USA) and consulting anywhere.
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/all-steamed-up-inc
  • IronmanIronman Posts: 4,368Member
    Near Staunton.
    Bob Boan







    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • SteamheadSteamhead Posts: 12,293Member
    OK- DC would be a schlep from there, and you'd have to get around to the east side of the city, but here are two locations that are fairly close to each other:

    http://www.vintagehousepart.com/

    http://communityforklift.org/
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    "Reducing our country's energy consumption, one system at a time"
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Baltimore, MD (USA) and consulting anywhere.
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/all-steamed-up-inc
  • EYoderEYoder Posts: 46Member
    I've heard black dog salvage in Roanoke has old cast rads.
  • H3atzH3atz Posts: 2Member
    any luck in finding one? not sure if you find a good catch on Craigslist
  • David107David107 Posts: 1,372Member
    @Steamhead I happened to be at BuildingsNY conference yesterday and stopped in on the EcoRad booth. Really nice people and they do beautiful restorations. See photos, restored and electrically adapted unit: the element goes in on the bottom and the unit is filled with a mix of water and glycol. Unit in photo uses 1000 watts; amperage would depend on voltage 220 or 110 or other. Given high power costs in NE not sure if it's viable here.



  • IronmanIronman Posts: 4,368Member
    H3atz said:

    any luck in finding one? not sure if you find a good catch on Craigslist

    I need about 8. This is a total build from scratch system, so I need matched rad's that are reliable. I wouldn't consider Craigs List for materials that I would have to warranty to my customer.
    Bob Boan







    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • BoonBoon Posts: 221Member
    Bob, We were going to visit this place in Richmond when we did our project but never went. http://caravatis.com/Radiators.html
    DIY'er ... ripped out a perfectly good forced-air furnace and replaced it with hot water & radiators.
  • SteamheadSteamhead Posts: 12,293Member
    @Erin Holohan Haskell , do we still have a listing of places that have used radiators? If so, I think we have some places to add to it- if not, we should start one.
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    "Reducing our country's energy consumption, one system at a time"
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Baltimore, MD (USA) and consulting anywhere.
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/all-steamed-up-inc
  • Erin Holohan HaskellErin Holohan Haskell Posts: 711Member, Moderator, Administrator
    Steamhead said:

    @Erin Holohan Haskell , do we still have a listing of places that have used radiators? If so, I think we have some places to add to it- if not, we should start one.

    We don't have it anymore, but I can start a page again.
    President
    HeatingHelp.com
  • SteamheadSteamhead Posts: 12,293Member
    Thanks. Here are two Baltimore locations. The first may or may not have rads but we've gotten some there in the past:

    https://housewerkssalvage.com/

    And this one almost always has some:

    http://www.secondchanceinc.org/

    Black Dog Salvage of Roanoke, VA, posted earlier, is here:

    https://www.blackdogsalvage.com/

    Olde Good Things has a huge warehouse in Scranton, PA:

    https://ogtstore.com/

    ISTR more places but these are all I can find quickly.
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    "Reducing our country's energy consumption, one system at a time"
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Baltimore, MD (USA) and consulting anywhere.
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/all-steamed-up-inc
  • Erin Holohan HaskellErin Holohan Haskell Posts: 711Member, Moderator, Administrator
  • The Steam WhispererThe Steam Whisperer Posts: 239Member
    Chicago Suppliers:

    JC typical has about 1000 radiators in stock at any one time (especially in the summer)

    JC Radiators http://jcradiators.com/

    Rebuilding Exchange http://rebuildingexchange.org/ All sorts of recycled building materials

    Southshore Plumbing and Heating http://www.southshoreonline.net/

    Consumers Supply http://www.consumersplumbing.com/
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  • tim smithtim smith Posts: 2,252Member
    Northland radiator, he has upwards of couple hundred. He trucks them out of Duluth Minnesota. I had to get a couple from him for a 20+ radiator replacement job and he shipped to Seattle. Not too bad of pricing and shipping competitive.
    Kurt owner 218-393-0392
    Good Lucki
    Tim
  • SteamheadSteamhead Posts: 12,293Member
    @Erin Holohan Haskell , the radiator page looks like it's gonna get rather long............ B)
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    "Reducing our country's energy consumption, one system at a time"
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Baltimore, MD (USA) and consulting anywhere.
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/all-steamed-up-inc
  • Erin Holohan HaskellErin Holohan Haskell Posts: 711Member, Moderator, Administrator
    Steamhead said:

    @Erin Holohan Haskell , the radiator page looks like it's gonna get rather long............ B)

    It sure is! Thanks for the info everyone. This is a great resource. I've updated the page.
    President
    HeatingHelp.com
  • tompdadtompdad Posts: 1Member
    In Malden, MA, Radical Radiator Restorations has over 2000 used radiators: painted and pressure tested: telephone 1-617-733-7163; www.radicalradiator.com
  • RomanPRomanP Posts: 101Member
    edited May 21
    We have a bunch of different styles, shapes and sizes. NYC area. We’ve been removing a lot of radiators from job sites for 2-3 years now
  • SteamheadSteamhead Posts: 12,293Member
    Company name, address, phone number, website?
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    "Reducing our country's energy consumption, one system at a time"
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Baltimore, MD (USA) and consulting anywhere.
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/all-steamed-up-inc
  • David107David107 Posts: 1,372Member
    edited June 10
    Edited
  • bethdrawsbethdraws Posts: 1Member
    Dear Friend, I purchased old cast iron radiators
    is there a way to convert these to fit my hot water heating system? yikes I think I screwed up!
  • Jamie HallJamie Hall Posts: 8,534Member
    Is there a connection across the top of the radiators, from section to section, to allow the water to flow? I can't quite tell from the pictures...

    If there is, it's just a matter of adding an air vent at the top of one end. If there isn't... you're toast.
    Jamie



    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England.



    Hoffman Equipped System (all original except boiler), Weil-Mclain 580, 2.75 gph Carlin, Vapourstat 0.5 -- 6.0 ounces per square inch
  • IronmanIronman Posts: 4,368Member
    Unfortunately, if the rad's have no connection across the top of the sections, then they can only be used for steam. Conversely, rad's with the top connections can be used for steam or hot water.
    Please also note that they need to be sized properly for the load of each room in which they will be installed. This involves two things:
    1. You need to do an accurate room by room heat loss calculation. SlantFin has a free app you can download for this.
    2. The rad's btu output is based upon its square footage of surface area. This is also referred to as EDR (Equivalent Direct Radiation). There are tables to determine this as well as a book in this site's online store called "EDR - Every Darn Radiator". Multiplying the surface area X 150 will give you the btu output for the rad at 170* average water temp.
    Bob Boan







    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • SteamheadSteamhead Posts: 12,293Member
    If those radiators won't work for hot-water, you may be able to trade them for some that will. Someone will want those beauties.

    Or, you could do what I would do, and build a steam system!
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    "Reducing our country's energy consumption, one system at a time"
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Baltimore, MD (USA) and consulting anywhere.
    https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/all-steamed-up-inc
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