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Used/Refurbished Rads

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Ironman
Ironman Member Posts: 7,379
Does anyone know of a good source for used/refurbished rad's in the eastern U.S.?
Bob Boan
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  • Shalom
    Shalom Member Posts: 165
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    They generally show up on Craigslist, at least in the NYC and surrounding areas.
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,891
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    We have some. What exactly do you need?
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  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 7,379
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    Hot water. I just looked at job where the customer wants to put CI rad's and Baseray in an older house with an addition being added.
    I haven't done a load calc yet, so IDK the sizes. The original house is a typical "4 square", 32' X 32', two story, 4 rooms each floor. So, it looks like several of them will be the same size.
    Bob Boan
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  • The Steam Whisperer
    The Steam Whisperer Member Posts: 1,218
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    You may be able to just reuse what's in the house. When an addition is added, the heat loss of the adjacent spaces drops dramatically.... sometimes to zero. Generally, the heat loss of the expanded house is often the same or lower than the original home, assuming quality installation of the insulation and proper attention to air sealing ( which is not the norm, however).
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  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 7,379
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    The house now has convectors connected to old monoflo piping that's busted. The owner wants CI rad's in the old part and Baseray in the new.

    I'm planning on a home run system with manifolds and TRVs.

    I'm trying to find a source for refurbished rads. There used to be one somewhere in the NYC area, but I can't find any info on it now.
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,891
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    Ecorad bought out A1 plumbing supply and they are now in MA:

    https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/162093/a1-radiators-new-owners
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  • D107
    D107 Member Posts: 1,852
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  • bob eck
    bob eck Member Posts: 930
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    Where are you located at. I can get you Governale cast iron radiators and cast iron baseboard
    Ironman
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 7,379
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    bob eck said:

    Where are you located at. I can get you Governale cast iron radiators and cast iron baseboard

    Virginia.

    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • bob eck
    bob eck Member Posts: 930
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    We get new cast iron radiators from Governale
    Check out their radiators at
    www.governalerad.com
    I can get you pricing and ship them to you freight or you can go on a road trip to Allentown PA to pick them up.
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 7,379
    edited May 2018
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    I sent the owner a Burnham version brochure to consider as an option. I'm guessing that if he goes this route, it will be the decorative style for the old section and Baseray for the new.

    I'll let you know if he decides this way.
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,891
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    Ironman said:

    bob eck said:

    Where are you located at. I can get you Governale cast iron radiators and cast iron baseboard

    Virginia.

    Where in VA? If you're close to DC I know a couple places there that have radiators.............
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  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 7,379
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    Near Staunton.
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,891
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    OK- DC would be a schlep from there, and you'd have to get around to the east side of the city, but here are two locations that are fairly close to each other:

    http://www.vintagehousepart.com/

    http://communityforklift.org/
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
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    Ironman
  • EYoder
    EYoder Member Posts: 60
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    I've heard black dog salvage in Roanoke has old cast rads.
    Ironman
  • H3atz
    H3atz Member Posts: 2
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    any luck in finding one? not sure if you find a good catch on Craigslist
  • D107
    D107 Member Posts: 1,852
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    @Steamhead I happened to be at BuildingsNY conference yesterday and stopped in on the EcoRad booth. Really nice people and they do beautiful restorations. See photos, restored and electrically adapted unit: the element goes in on the bottom and the unit is filled with a mix of water and glycol. Unit in photo uses 1000 watts; amperage would depend on voltage 220 or 110 or other. Given high power costs in NE not sure if it's viable here.



  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 7,379
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    H3atz said:

    any luck in finding one? not sure if you find a good catch on Craigslist

    I need about 8. This is a total build from scratch system, so I need matched rad's that are reliable. I wouldn't consider Craigs List for materials that I would have to warranty to my customer.
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • Boon
    Boon Member Posts: 260
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    Bob, We were going to visit this place in Richmond when we did our project but never went. http://caravatis.com/Radiators.html
    DIY'er ... ripped out a perfectly good forced-air furnace and replaced it with hot water & radiators.
    Ironman
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,891
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    @Erin Holohan Haskell , do we still have a listing of places that have used radiators? If so, I think we have some places to add to it- if not, we should start one.
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    Ironman
  • Erin Holohan Haskell
    Erin Holohan Haskell Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 2,326
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    Steamhead said:

    @Erin Holohan Haskell , do we still have a listing of places that have used radiators? If so, I think we have some places to add to it- if not, we should start one.

    We don't have it anymore, but I can start a page again.

    President
    HeatingHelp.com

    kcopp
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,891
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    Thanks. Here are two Baltimore locations. The first may or may not have rads but we've gotten some there in the past:

    https://housewerkssalvage.com/

    And this one almost always has some:

    http://www.secondchanceinc.org/

    Black Dog Salvage of Roanoke, VA, posted earlier, is here:

    https://www.blackdogsalvage.com/

    Olde Good Things has a huge warehouse in Scranton, PA:

    https://ogtstore.com/

    ISTR more places but these are all I can find quickly.
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    Towson, MD, USA
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  • Erin Holohan Haskell
    Erin Holohan Haskell Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 2,326
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    President
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    Ironmankcopp
  • The Steam Whisperer
    The Steam Whisperer Member Posts: 1,218
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    Chicago Suppliers:

    JC typical has about 1000 radiators in stock at any one time (especially in the summer)

    JC Radiators http://jcradiators.com/

    Rebuilding Exchange http://rebuildingexchange.org/ All sorts of recycled building materials

    Southshore Plumbing and Heating http://www.southshoreonline.net/

    Consumers Supply http://www.consumersplumbing.com/
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  • D107
    D107 Member Posts: 1,852
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    Here are some more. Yes, let's SAVE THE RADIATORS!

    http://www.vermontsalvage.com/have4.html Vermont

    http://demolitiondepot.com/vo/demo/inv/list.asp?CAT1=Radiators+and+Accessories&CAT2=Radiators&CATC=rad NYC

    Bauer Brothers Salvage Inc. Minneapolis, MN
    612–521–9492 http://bauerbrotherssalvage.com/heating-plumbing/
    sales@bauerbrotherssalvage.com
  • tim smith
    tim smith Member Posts: 2,765
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    Northland radiator, he has upwards of couple hundred. He trucks them out of Duluth Minnesota. I had to get a couple from him for a 20+ radiator replacement job and he shipped to Seattle. Not too bad of pricing and shipping competitive.
    Kurt owner 218-393-0392
    Good Lucki
    Tim
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,891
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    @Erin Holohan Haskell , the radiator page looks like it's gonna get rather long............ B)
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
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  • Erin Holohan Haskell
    Erin Holohan Haskell Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 2,326
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    Steamhead said:

    @Erin Holohan Haskell , the radiator page looks like it's gonna get rather long............ B)

    It sure is! Thanks for the info everyone. This is a great resource. I've updated the page.

    President
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  • tompdad
    tompdad Member Posts: 1
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    In Malden, MA, Radical Radiator Restorations has over 2000 used radiators: painted and pressure tested: telephone 1-617-733-7163; www.radicalradiator.com
    Ironman
  • RomanP
    RomanP Member Posts: 102
    edited May 2018
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    We have a bunch of different styles, shapes and sizes. NYC area. We’ve been removing a lot of radiators from job sites for 2-3 years now
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,891
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    Company name, address, phone number, website?
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
  • D107
    D107 Member Posts: 1,852
    edited June 2018
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    Edited
  • bethdraws
    bethdraws Member Posts: 1
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    Dear Friend, I purchased old cast iron radiators
    is there a way to convert these to fit my hot water heating system? yikes I think I screwed up!
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 23,433
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    Is there a connection across the top of the radiators, from section to section, to allow the water to flow? I can't quite tell from the pictures...

    If there is, it's just a matter of adding an air vent at the top of one end. If there isn't... you're toast.
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • Ironman
    Ironman Member Posts: 7,379
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    Unfortunately, if the rad's have no connection across the top of the sections, then they can only be used for steam. Conversely, rad's with the top connections can be used for steam or hot water.
    Please also note that they need to be sized properly for the load of each room in which they will be installed. This involves two things:
    1. You need to do an accurate room by room heat loss calculation. SlantFin has a free app you can download for this.
    2. The rad's btu output is based upon its square footage of surface area. This is also referred to as EDR (Equivalent Direct Radiation). There are tables to determine this as well as a book in this site's online store called "EDR - Every Darn Radiator". Multiplying the surface area X 150 will give you the btu output for the rad at 170* average water temp.
    Bob Boan
    You can choose to do what you want, but you cannot choose the consequences.
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,891
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    If those radiators won't work for hot-water, you may be able to trade them for some that will. Someone will want those beauties.

    Or, you could do what I would do, and build a steam system!
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
    Erin Holohan Haskellratio