Taco pump with integrated relay
We have a 2-zone radiant floor system. Over 20 years old
2 Taco pumps with integrated relay that connects to a 24 volt hardwired transformer. Each pump has a 115 cord that plugs into a wall outlet.
Originally a two wire thermostats for each though we upgraded to smart themostats with c wire transformer.
A person who will not be named tore out some wires and I would like to figure out how to start fresh with a two wire thermostat on one zobe ( hardly ever used) and a new smart thermostat on the other.
Any ideas?
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More info to help for the basic two wire thermostat
Transformer hardwired
Two wires from pump relay
Two wires to thermostat
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Maybe get a Fast Stat FSCM00 common wire adder kit for the "smart" thermostat. But ideally you should just use a simple thermostat for both zones of radiant. The smart thing to do is set your thermostat to a comfortable temperature and leave it alone.
The person who will not be named is your husband, isn't it?
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So simple thermostat.
How to wire pump with integrated relay
Hard wired transformer
Thermostat?
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there is not much of a transformer in those zone pumps, it may not cover the t stat load
Bob "hot rod" Rohr
trainer for Caleffi NA
Living the hydronic dream1 -
Your best bet is to use an isolation relay
Diagram to follow
From what I can tell from your original statement, you are NOT using the Priority feature of that relay. You are only using the relay to turn on the circulator motor using a 2 wire thermostat. if that is the case, and your other failure has taken the wires apart, you need ot get back to this stage on both pumps before we can move foreword
You will not have any wire on the P terminal where the 120 VAC input is located. nothing is connected to R or C on the 24 volt power terminals.
If you can get there then it is easy to add the Isolation Relay
Edward Young Retired
After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?
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Here is what you do when you are back to square one when everything was working with 2 wire thermostats. Purchase one of these Fan Center relay. They are inexpensive for getting both a transformer and a relay in one box.
Then wire it up like this. Now you have a powerful transformer to use for the thermostat.
If there is already a large enough transformer I might recommend the RIB U1C. Not in this case because there is not a powerful enough transformer for the thermostat(s) and the relays you need to isolate the systems.
Edward Young Retired
After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?
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Perhaps I misunderstand this series of statements:
- So simple thermostat.
- How to wire pump with integrated relay
- Hard wired transformer
- Thermostat?
Does this mean that the transformer inside the Taco Relay attached to the circulator is not the transformer you are referring to in that third item?
Perhaps a photo of all the parts you are talking about.
Edward Young Retired
After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?
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The relay is integrated into the taco pump. It is not the same as in the pictures. It has two wires emerging from the side housing that connect to the transformer to drive the relay when the thermostat calls for heat.
It is a pump from 2002 aprox.
The transformer is not part of the pump. It is a separate hardwired transformer ( like the one in the above photo)
There are three things that need to be wired in the circuit.
Pump that has two wires to connect to the transformer and thermostat
Thermostat - two wires
Transformer
Power to drive the pump is a 114v plug
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How 'bout a few pics, so we can see what's going on. Try to get the model # of the pump too.
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Your statement "2 Taco pumps with integrated relay" draws this picture in many professional's mind
However your later explanation indicates otherwise.
What is the actual part number of the 2 taco circulators. That number can be found on the pump somewhere.
With that model number, we can identify exactly which pump you're working with. A photograph would also be very helpful.
Here is a side-by-side comparison of the same pump with two different wiring boxes. The one on the right has a larger box to accommodate the relay.
I believe you have something more like the one on the left, with only the electrical connections for the pump motor.
It also appears that you have been struggling with this problem for more than a year. I would like to get to the bottom of this for you. Lets work together to get this resolved.
Edward Young Retired
After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?
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