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Energy Kinetics Overheating

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Resipsa88
Resipsa88 Member Posts: 24
in Oil Heating

Anyone know what may be causing my energy kinetics system to overheat. The dual guard has to have been reset for the past 2 nights. I have to wait for the circulator pump to cool off for the system to operate properly. It seems the circulator is overheating to me and stops operating. If I don't wait for the circulator to be cool the reset relocks out. I actually hear the water boiling and it doesn't seem the water is moving as the heat is not traveling up the main outlet branch.

the circulator pump was replaced 2 years ago with a standard 007 after the 007e failed.

obviously I should get a tech but outside of the circulator pump potentially failing again or getting jammed any suggestions. I guess the other theory is airbinding at the circulator but seems odd once it cools that the circulator would be able to unbind.

Or the temperature sensor maybe on the kinetics in the boiler is not registering properly. I did notice the sensor on the control seemed to be out of line with the manual temperature.

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  • szwedj
    szwedj Member Posts: 84

    @Resipsa88 The fact that you have to manually reset the Dualgard, means your system is hitting the manual reset high limit temp of 250F. The only time we usually see this happen is when the system circulator totally stops working and there is no flow of water inside the vessel. The fact that the temperatures don't exactly line up between the System Manager and the Dualgard is pretty normal, the Dualgard's sensor is in the boilers supply piping and the Manager's sensor is located in the boiler's return. While two years is not typical, I think its very likely your service tech will find that your 007 system circ needs to be replaced again.

    Joe Szwed
    Energy Kinetics
    Robertw
  • Resipsa88
    Resipsa88 Member Posts: 24

    @szwedj Thanks. My gut was telling me it's my circulator being on its last leg. Sort of crazy that my circulator pumps are lasting only 2-3 years. the 007e had a circuit board failure, and this one seems to be having a motor failure. I am tempted to swap to a grundfos since those circulators seem to be holding up better in my system.

    Maybe ill swap it to the grundfos Alpha that I was thinking of swapping it before I went the 007 and use the 007 as a backup if I need and rebuild the cartridge.

  • szwedj
    szwedj Member Posts: 84

    @Resipsa88 Understood, normally the 007's are pretty bulletproof, but if you go Grundfos, either the 15-58 or the Alpha will work. Swapping out the cartridge would be the fastest and easiest way to stay up and running.

    Joe Szwed
    Energy Kinetics
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 27,414

    Two years for a pump does seem a bit short… but, if one was a board and one a motor, I'd run over the electrical connections supplying power with a fine tooth comb. Nothing like a slightly bad connection somewhere to take down electrics.

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 7,099

    That's the problem with ECM motors, the money you save gets paid back with early failures.

    Stick with the old tried and true 007.

  • Resipsa88
    Resipsa88 Member Posts: 24

    Appreciate all the input. I did have an electrical outage a few weeks ago, wonder if it messed up the motor. I was worried it would have messed up the digital controller, but seemed to act normal.

  • Resipsa88
    Resipsa88 Member Posts: 24
    https://forum.heatinghelp.com/discussion/comment/1894880#Comment_1894880

    The first one was a the controller faulting non electrical. The second one is definitely the motor overheating. I Am going to swap it and if it fails after a short period I will go over it. I did run a test after the first ones controller failed and at that time the electric was operating normally

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