Maytag Refrigerator Ice Maker Frozen
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You seem to have ruled out almost everything but here's a long shot, but worth checking. On the top left outside of my fridge there is a small vented cover. Underneath the cover is where the ice tray water is fed from the solenoid into the ice tray. If your model is similar it is a least worth inspecting for leaks or misalignment of water flow to the tray. The plastic pipes do sometimes freeze which can cause unexpected issues.
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Typical cheap (not money wise) but quality wise appliances. They are becoming throw away appliances like window units.
My cousin bought all new appliances 2 years ago and my nephew got his old ones to use at a summer camp.
25-year-old Kitchen Aid refrigerator that seems decently build quit after a year freezer running +15 and refrigerator running+50. After troubleshooting as much as I could I replaced the defrost timer and thermostat and all is good. Unfortunately the quality is going down. I put in a new Kitchen aid dishwasher last year. so far so good. But except for the SS liner the whole thing is plastic you could pick it up with one hand.
My brother replaced all his appliances 10 years ago when his kitchen was remodeled. All Maytag.
Stove, microwave, refrigerator and dish washer. DW failed completely and part not available, had problems with stove, microwave. Refrigerator is the only one with no issue so far.
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Miele is what people seem to suggest for a dishwasher that is decently built. I think whirlpool's top end dishwashers are still good but hey might be more flexible with what they'll slap a kitchenaid label on now. we had a whirlpool dishwasher when i was a kid that was terrible but it was the near bottom of the line because it was a portable and they have to pay for the wheels and hose and cord somehow. It replaced a ge mobile maid that was great. should have just fixed the lid switch on the ge. i have a bosch that is about 27 years old now that works great again after i bent the bottom rack up so it wasn't binding the spray arm
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If the cubes are different sizes that would point very strongly to the ice maker isn't square to the outside of the cabinet anymore for some reason. It could be some trim piece moved, it could be the whole interior moved or warped. Maybe the back partition moved. I'm sure you can fix it or shim it level.
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I haven't dreamed up a way to do that with it in place because the icemaker is in an enclosure in the upper left corner of the refrigerated food compartment. Your comment has urged me to check that out, piecemeal, i.e., check the track the mold slides in, check the level of the mold within the icemaker for level.
Good thought, but since the new icemaker performs the same as the old one, it's probably same-o same-o, but worth a try.
Putting a level on the bottom of the compartment shows it level.
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Not yet, I'll do it later today. I think I'll try to do both the track the icemaker has to fit in the housing and how level the mold is within the icemaker overall.
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This all started when I discovered the icemaker mechanism for crushed vs cubed got lodged out of position. But that seems to be the result of the oddball shape of cubes and extra frozen water in the bottom of the bin that got stuck on the cubes.
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you could also just look at the level of the water on the mold when it fills, maybe with a phone.
that is a very weird design with it bumping in to the fresh food compartment although i suppose that space is less in the way than if it were in the freezer. is that the ice bin we're looking at?
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I'm not positive, but am fairly sure that's the reason most of them have so many problems now.
They work much better in the freezer.
Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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Yes, its the ice bin.
By the way, I should have mentioned the ice cubes are consistent size with the new icemaker in service. But the water I noted above is from that icemaker.
The total of ice cubes and water/ice I measure is somewhat consistent.
Whenever we sell the house, sooner or later, it will not be to our advantage to have a refrigerator whose icemaker behaves as this one does.
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Our house didn't even have a refrigerator when we bought it.
I was happy about that, actually.
Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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Ice box instead?
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No, nothing at all, just an empty spot.
I wanted to use my monitor top, but it wasn't ready yet and with all that went down with buying the house it just wasn't in the cards. So, we bought a 2011 Kitchenaid (Whirlpool), but I refused to get one with an icemaker and I insisted that it was just a basic freezer on top model. It's still running fine.
I can't imagine a refrigerator having any effect at all on buying or selling a house honestly. In my mind it's in the same category as curtains or coffee tables.
Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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If the refrigerator didn't work at all an inspector might pick up on that, but they won't be inspecting the precise function of the ice maker.
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I agree it's probably not a deal breaker, but my conscience would bother me for a while if it wasn't known by the buyers.
Plus, I'm spoiled by having both the ice and water dispensers in the door.
This whole escapade has been challenging, icemaker and dual valve replaced and still a little water in the bin. I also had the entire icemaker out for over a week and no water dripped inside the enclosure for the entire time, so it wasn't like the valve was slow in closing (i. e., lime buildup inside the valve).
Truly perplexing.
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what about tilted left to right? i still think watching it fill with a cell phone camera will tell you something
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Expecting a refrigerator to be perfectly level in order to function isn't realistic.
I understand they say it in the manual, but if you expected the general public to do that, nothing would work and it would be a customer service nightmare.
Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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not the fridge, the ice maker as it is mounted in the fridge. I think some cabinet part has moved around or possibly is loose and is moving to different positions at different times.
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At this point, I may elect to engage Maytag. To do that I will have to identify the problem(s), potential causes I have explored (including the wacky ones) and what I have done to try to solve the mystery.
More to follow in the near future.
Thanks for all the suggestions. HH has been good to me over the years, especially with my rental steam heat.
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Going back to your earlier photos, I would focus on why water dripped down after removing the bin. I assume it splashed out from the ice tray, so why hadn't it frozen? Most of these discharge cold air from the rear side of the ice maker into the refrigerator box, after passing the tray I assume. What temp is that air and is there a reasonable (subjective, I know) air flow exiting the ice maker in your opinion?
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Sorry for not getting back to you…been busy with a broken baffle on the inlet to my septic tank..
I have no previous evidence of air flow being "different", but will try to determine if I can prove or disprove it.
I did prove the water inlet valve does not leak, by having the icemaker removed and having a small food container under the fill connection for over a week. No water, but I replaced the valve anyhow under an assumption that the valve might be slow in closing (from lime buildup) overfilling the icemaker. Not true and with the replacement icemaker in service the water supplied to make cubes amounts to an average around 125cc, compared to a spec sheet that says 140cc.
Meanwhile, I returned the replacement icemaker to my local appliance repair shop. They are getting another based on the first one being defective and covered under warranty. I'll get it next week and continue the saga.
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if 2 icemakers are doing the same thing it is very unlikely that it is the icemaker. it could be part of it isn't freezing or something like that with the half in the fresh food compartment design
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I agree, but it is a no cost option and if the second replacement behaves like the original and the first replacement, I will have to continue looking elsewhere. I already replaced the water inlet valve and have proved it is not the problem.
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It is entirely possible if you have 50 ice makers all doing the same thing for it to be all 50 ice makers and not the fridge.
Highly unlikely, but still possible.
Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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True, but if I can't get a reasonable result from a local Maytag repair service, I may write a letter to the CEO about the situation. I have done that in the past regarding a snowblower that was advertised to have specific features, but actually did not, a terrible New Years Eve stay at a hotel in New Jersey, and a sump pump that failed in two years. I got positive results in all three cases.
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Have you tried taking a temperature reading where the ice tray/bin air it exhausts into the main refrigerator box and compare it to the temperature in the freezer itself. If you are able to do this with the icemaker turned off, I would think that the temperature should be about the same. From what I have read, the ideal temperature for the freezer itself should be about 0 (zero) Fahrenheit.
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I installed the second replacement icemaker with the same result. About 125cc of water per batch from the first 3 batches of cubes and a small amount of water in the bottom of the bin.
I didn't actually expect anything different, but since the appliance store guy was willing to get a replacement from the supplier at no cost, I figured it was worth the chance.
So, now what?
Ice cube trays…less than $10? I think the ones we had years ago have gone to heaven…lol
New refrigerator…$2000?
Local Maytag repair service…$100/hr+ for what?
Letter to CEO about a 14 year old refrigerator…waste of my time even though I have had success in the past?
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The new $2K refrigerator will have issues, likely ice maker ones as well especially specific brands.
It will also likely fail in a few years.
The letter is pointless especially with the literal garbage they sell now.
Keep what you have and stop using the ice maker.
Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.
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camera
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It doesnt fit. No way to hold it in place if I want to install the bin .
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I could try to find one of those fiberscopes my iPhone or IPadfor internal inspection of piping, hoping it could fit.
Does anyone have any suggestions for one to look into?
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