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Help Sizing A Multi-Zone Mini Split System - Minimum Capacity?

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  • DCContrarian
    DCContrarian Member Posts: 1,180

    Yes.

    Now, when it comes to sizing I'd be looking at your average annual low, which is -1F, and has a 27% higher heating load as 12F, which is the design temp I used, so you can go as much as 27% higher without really oversizing. You said earlier your designer was using a design temp of 6F, which accounts for some of the difference.

    You try to get the heat loads as close as you can, and then you look at equipment. Typically it comes in half ton increments anyway.

    JustinS
  • JustinS
    JustinS Member Posts: 286

    Awesome… you've given me a lot to think about here, in particular the idea that I should be focus on the heat capacity at the low end rather than the nameplate capacity.

    Although, I think that to some extent I do want to be mindful of the capacity at 47F? Avoiding short cycles and such, right?

    We just got a 2nd proposal back (this one has Mitsubishi HyperHeat, the other was Bosch ducted downstairs, Fujitsu ductless upstairs) and its load numbers are 58K heating / 32K cooling. This new one uses a 3.5 ton for most of the house while using a 2.5 ton for the loft (C-03) and the ground floor room below C-02.

  • DCContrarian
    DCContrarian Member Posts: 1,180

    @JustinS : "Awesome… you've given me a lot to think about here, in particular the idea that I should be focus on the heat capacity at the low end rather than the nameplate capacity."

    If you take away only one thing, that would be it.

    "Although, I think that to some extent I do want to be mindful of the capacity at 47F? Avoiding short cycles and such, right?"

    In the spreadsheet I put in a column for short-cycling loss, it's just a guess but if you don't put in something the numbers lead you toward dramatic oversizing. There's a tradeoff, as you go smaller you start coming up short on the cold end and have to supplement with resistance heat, as you go bigger the oversizing losses start to add up.

    As a practical matter units come in fixed sizes, usually in half ton increments. So it boils down to picking between two sizes.

    JustinS
  • JustinS
    JustinS Member Posts: 286

    @DCContrarian Looking more closely at your spreadsheet - I was wondering how I might estimate the total kWh consumption for the entire house? Would I set up similar spreadsheets for each heat pump that's being considered?

    If it were as simple as the whole house being 2x the 2nd floor and we were using 2 heat pumps of the same specification, I imagine that I could just double it and that'd be pretty good, right?

    But since we won't have two identically sized units, I'd want to do a spreadsheet for each unit and use the heat load for the serviced rooms in cell B4, right? Naturally, I'd get the specific Heat Pump Performance Curve for each model.

    Sound about right?

  • DCContrarian
    DCContrarian Member Posts: 1,180

    You'd have to do a spreadsheet for each heat pump. One of the keys is calculating the COP and output at each temperature, that's going to be specific to each heat pump.

    JustinS