LNG export increases impact on natural gas’s use for heating in US
pretty interesting - the future is near. Americans will be paying closer to global natural gas prices soon as producers have an easier time shipping to the highest bidder. The ramifications could be substantial as oil consumption growth decreases/ shrinks and electricity displaces more oil and gas in the heating sector. As the gas grid has expensive underground infrastructure, could be interesting to see if trucked fuels start to make a comeback.
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It's hard not to see ulterior motives when the gas we aren't allowed to burn here at home lest we become A Bad Person can still be sold elsewhere.
Whaddya wanna bet they get better returns this way?
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ha that’s pretty dramatic - Nat Gas is the predominant heating and electricity source. We can use it.
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It's worth looking at how spot gas prices (and as a result electricity prices) have fluctuated over the last few years in Europe and the UK. Funny how supply and demand works…
Br. Jamie, osb
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Drill baby drill, global customers are waiting :)
Seems our quickest way to more electricity is NG power plants, they seem to come online much faster than a new nuke plant. We get 34% of our electricity from NG plants.
We came within inches of starting to build a few of the new nuke plants, multiple cities came together to fund the build.
In the end attaining the water rights for cooling squashed the projects.
We have stations around me that can fuel vehicles with LNG and CNG. Some car dealers near me will convert your vehicle to NG and maintain factory warranty.
Local buses and many bigger Amazon trucks run NG around here. The smaller Amazon vans are Rivian EVs.
Bob "hot rod" Rohr
trainer for Caleffi NA
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even higher, 43% for the U.S.. I believe the existing NG fleet is only 60% utilized or thereabouts. Of course, being more efficient with NG for heating would allow us to export even more for the same production.
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Well- I still have my Burnham V-14, and can get a new tank and put the NX or Sunray back on if it comes to that.
All Steamed Up, Inc.
Towson, MD, USA
Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
Oil & Gas Burner Service
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Seems the fuel oil industry puts a lot of faith in home grown Bio blends. But there seems to be a lot of uncertainty around the feed stock needed. If some or all comes from China, that could become cost prohibitive. Putting farmers out of business, will it come down to food or bio fuels, affordable fuel oil?
Bob "hot rod" Rohr
trainer for Caleffi NA
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The soybeans used for biofuel come from our own "flyover" country — and are shipped to China. Not the other way around.
But… there are huge questions about how actually "green" they are.
Br. Jamie, osb
Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England1 -
Ha it we want to use solar power, just use PV. Biofuels just uses more space
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All Steamed Up, Inc.
Towson, MD, USA
Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
Oil & Gas Burner Service
Consulting
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And now we are going back to coal.. I alway wanted to work on a Iron Fireman.. Drag out the trough and worm gear behind the boiler, it was kept for a reason :) Coal conversion do you think ?
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"Seems our quickest way to more electricity is NG power plants, they seem to come online much faster than a new nuke plant. We get 34% of our electricity from NG plants."
Solar accounted for 84% of all capacity added in 2024:
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/solar-accounted-84-new-us-power-added-2024-report-says-2025-03-11/
All renewables were over 90%.
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I found my PV input data at the power companies website. I have 6200W of PV, facing mostly east, low pitch on the roof.
I started the VitoCal heat pump in December 2024.
Electric dryer, range, older 3 ton AC on the house. Some intermittent welding consumption.``
Panels were snowed under a few times this winter, probably a week to 10 days of snow cover.
We had a 13% increase in power costs recently also.
Bob "hot rod" Rohr
trainer for Caleffi NA
Living the hydronic dream
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@DCContrarian oh obviously! Solar + now storage is booming. But existing gas plants are under utilized so there’s some room there.
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https://energybadboys.substack.com/
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Looks like the Electrical energy consuption has doubled since the Vitocal was installed..😒
Do not really want to dicuss the politics dehind this but this is the very subject that the europeans have been discussing for a long time..
My Mom and Dad may eventualy be facing some serious Issues when the Wood burner is outlawed.
When someone with a fixed income has to pay double the amount to keep warm, that can and will be a issue. Some elders may freeze, some may cut back on the Meds or other essentials.
Can the PV array be tilted above a 38 degree angle to shed the snow ?
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Looks like 2-$3 to heat the shop. I'll dig out my gas costs to see how it compares to the mod con from previous winters.
The common install around here is right on the pitch of the roof. I don't see any that are racked to the best angle. Except for the large utility ground mounts.
They get dusty also, with new construction ongoing around me. I need to rig up my DI tank to wash them off occasionally :)
Bob "hot rod" Rohr
trainer for Caleffi NA
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Last year we installed a 5 Panel Buderus SKS System in conjunction with a Latento tank on our own home . Tilting the collectors to approx 55 Degree was a no brainer after running a T-sol simulation for our enviroment and situation.
It really bugs me seeing my allmost 80 year old neighbor that probaly Spend 30K on his PV system having to get on a ladder to remove the feet of snow that overs his Facy PV array.
His system was installed at the "Pitch of the Roof".
PV Guys argue that the snow coved Array will be offset during the summer and it is not worth titing them up but yet they may sell you a Pole mounted tracking setup..🤨.
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mainly aesthetics I suspect, not wanting to see the array up on legs and brackets in a low pitch roof. And the wind load calculations if you have a lot of square footage., racked up.
What I found with T Sol if you couldn’t get the solar fraction due to low angle or bad orientation, just add another collector to make the numbers work.
5 collectors on your home? Is it a drainback , or what is the plan for summer use?
Bob "hot rod" Rohr
trainer for Caleffi NA
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As they are tilted at an angle that does not allow it to overheat in the summer and take advantage of the sun that is low on the horizon in the winter ,we (family of 5) will not have a issue with overheating because we will use the DHW for dishes/Showers and laundry. For multiple reason i wish it was a drainback but the price on the Array was next to nothing.😉 So Glycoled it is.
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