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I think our 40 year old boiler finally kicked the bucket

emmab
emmab Member Posts: 1
edited January 30 in Oil Heating

We bought a little house in New England last year, built in 1860. Heating is oil-fired boiler with steam radiators. Our Weil-McLain boiler is from 1985, which is honestly kind of crazy that it has been chugging along all these years. The thing is older than I am!

We’ve regularly had to add water to the boiler every 3-5 days, and over the past couple weeks it’s been every 24 hours. Previous homeowners had an auto-feeder, but it crapped out and we didn’t replace it. There’s been a burning oil/gas smell lately when the system fires up. This morning, we woke up and the temperature was 57 degrees in our house. We added water to the boiler and it fired up as usual, but then started leaking, which it hasn’t done before. We shut the whole system off and are running space heaters for the time being. It has been a brutally cold winter here and of course these things always happen at the worst time. Praying we can keep our pipes from freezing, insulation is pretty decent but, yeah, it’s cold outside.

After we moved in, we went through the whole rigamarole of getting quotes for HVAC, heat pumps, etc. I’ve spent god knows how many hours thinking about this, to the point where I have a whole spreadsheet of pros, cons, and every quote and detail we’ve gotten from contractors. This is merely my opinion, but for our circumstances, heat pumps and HVAC are a no-go. Both financially (electricity is exorbitantly expensive) and because I experienced living with a Mitsubishi pump in my last home and it just couldn’t get the heat up enough. National Grid will no longer install gas lines in our area, so that’s a no-go as well.

I love our radiators. Yes, oil isn’t cheap, but I see no reason to do open heart surgery on our heating system when quite frankly, steam does a damn good job keeping us warm. It’s possible our boiler isn’t 100% broken, but we have nothing to suggest there’s a leak in the pipes. I wish someone could come and tell us that the boiler has truly, finally kicked the bucket before I drop a bunch of money. But cmon, 40 years is a long lifespan. We knew when we bought the house that this day would come, I was just hoping it wouldn’t be in the dead of winter. New England Steamworks gave us a quote for installing a new boiler and the whole shebang. There’s a 3 week lead time. We’re having our oil-supplier (Petro) come out to look at the boiler and the chimney venting as well since I guess that’s free. We may give our plumber a call too for a second opinion, since he does boiler installations. 

I don’t know quite why I’m posting here, but this is one of the few places I can get unbiased information instead of people barking at me to get heat pumps or mini-splits or tear apart the walls to install high efficiency furnaces. I’ve put a lot of thoughtful consideration into this matter. I love our old home, and the only other thing I’d consider is switching to propane. It seems like whatever the solution, it will be rather pricey. But that’s homeownership I guess.

Interested in people’s thoughts on replacing an oil fired boiler w/ steam heat system. What do you wish you’d known, or things I should consider in this decision? Are there questions that I should be asking when I talk to technicians, or any other checks I can do to evaluate the problem? 

*** Edited to remove mention of the specific quote we received from New England Steamworks (they’re great tho!). Clearly I’m a newbie on the forum.

RTW

Comments

  • gyrfalcon
    gyrfalcon Member Posts: 187
    Slant Fin Galaxy GG100(1986) , 2 zone hot water baseboard, T87 Honeywell thermostats. 
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 7,222

    you aren’t supposed to say job prices here but what’s done is done, I saw it and my advice is throw your money at them, you stumbled onto one of the best installers in this nation

    NJ Steam Homeowner.
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    delcrossvbburd
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 25,532

    If you are going to use @New England SteamWorks you can't go wrong. They aren't the least expensive, perhaps, but they're the best in the business in your area and are completely fair.

    And you'll have your steam back and be nice and comfortable!

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
    delcrossvmattmia2
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 10,075

    Your other Quotes from other plumbers may end you up coming back here asking "how to fix a poor steam boiler install". @New England SteamWorks is your only quote that is guaranteed to get it right the first time. They will install it properly so that it can be maintained properly and last you over 50 years. Maintenance is the key to having a steam boiler outlast you while you live there. Those guys will install the boiler so that maintenance is easy to do.

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

    delcrossv
  • tim smith
    tim smith Member Posts: 2,836

    one thing I would say is here in Seattle it would be close to double that and not done quite as well. Not too many options here. I’m glad to be retiring. Don’t like where it’s headed.

    ethicalpaul
  • delcrossv
    delcrossv Member Posts: 1,872
    edited January 30

    Do it right, cry once.

    Do it wrong, cry over and over. 😉

    Forget tearing the steam out and putting something else in. You don't pay money to exchange a Cadillac for a Yugo.

    Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.
  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 5,672

    Keep the steam!

    Heat pumps are fine but when that NE wind is blowing, and the thermometer is falling into negative double digits you'll appreciate it.

    Besides where can you put the wet winter clothes on a heat pump?

    EdTheHeaterMan
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 11,610

    Might be able to put some stop leak in it and slow it down enough to run it until you can get it replaced. New England Steamworks will also figure out if your leak was above the water line in the boiler or if you had other system leaks that killed the boiler from all the water you were adding. I wouldn't be surprised if they find other things that also need to be fixed with the new boiler.

    If you eventually have gas available or want to switch to propane the oil burner can be replaced with a gas power burner on the new boiler.

    delcrossvGrallertEdTheHeaterMan