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Main vent recommendation?

My main is 65 ft long and about 1.5 cf volume. I have a single Gorton #2 on it now. Is adding another #2 worthwhile?

Homeowner

1936 house with 1996 Burnham V74 oil-fired 1-pipe system

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  • Long Beach Ed
    Long Beach Ed Member Posts: 1,460

    Try running it with the vent removed. If the main heats much faster than with the single #2, then another addition may be indicated.

    ethicalpaul
  • dabrakeman
    dabrakeman Member Posts: 674
    edited January 20

    Make sure this test is run with the system well warmed up both times. Typically one Gorton #2 would be considered enough for that volume though.

    Long Beach Ed
  • Big Ed_4
    Big Ed_4 Member Posts: 3,087

    What is the problem as to ask ?

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  • danmayer175
    danmayer175 Member Posts: 24

    I ran two tests with the header already hot. Open 1/2" bushing saw steam in 2 minutes. With the #2 it was more like 3:30.

    Homeowner

    1936 house with 1996 Burnham V74 oil-fired 1-pipe system

  • danmayer175
    danmayer175 Member Posts: 24

    Homeowner

    1936 house with 1996 Burnham V74 oil-fired 1-pipe system

  • delcrossv
    delcrossv Member Posts: 1,632

    What's on that runout? What vent on the rad? Riser to second floor?

    Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 17,506
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  • danmayer175
    danmayer175 Member Posts: 24

    There are 2 radiators, both have varivalves on middle setting. The second floor rad is slowest (and farthest from boiler). Every other runout is in the first half of the main, this one is the end of the line, just before the main vent.

    Homeowner

    1936 house with 1996 Burnham V74 oil-fired 1-pipe system

  • dabrakeman
    dabrakeman Member Posts: 674

    Obviously you can try slowing down some of the quicker radiators to help the balance. Adding the second #2 may help a bit as well. I would raise the main vents up on a nipple and antler. Looks like you have plenty of room.

  • delcrossv
    delcrossv Member Posts: 1,632

    What @dabrakeman said. You can also try a riser vent at the top of that runout and insulate as much of it as you can.

    Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.
  • danmayer175
    danmayer175 Member Posts: 24
    edited January 21

    I'm adding an antler tonight. I have the Gorton #1 that was on the main when I moved in, so I'll add that first and see if it helps. And then tune the Varivalves I have all over the house. I'm planning to replace them all, but it's a pricy proposition and this #1 is free to me!

    Homeowner

    1936 house with 1996 Burnham V74 oil-fired 1-pipe system

  • danmayer175
    danmayer175 Member Posts: 24

    I added the antler and the #1 last night. I think it's about 30 seconds faster. The last radiator vents a little quieter and seems to be heating up faster.

    Homeowner

    1936 house with 1996 Burnham V74 oil-fired 1-pipe system

  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 17,506

    Those street elbows don't have full-size 1/2" passageways. This can slow the venting rate. I'd change them to regular elbows and short nipples.

    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
  • SteamingatMohawk
    SteamingatMohawk Member Posts: 1,028

    Be aware that the varivalves do not shut completely. At the minimum setting they are equavalent to a #4. See the chart.

    https://www.heatinghelp.com/assets/documents/Vent-Valve-Comparison.pdf

  • SteamingatMohawk
    SteamingatMohawk Member Posts: 1,028