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Why are some 2 pipe rads supplied from the top, and others from the bottom?

delcrossv
delcrossv Member Posts: 1,437

Last two pipe question for the day…promise!

Is it a supply pressure issue?

Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.

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  • bburd
    bburd Member Posts: 1,058

    On a two pipe system, the supply valves can be used to regulate temperature. Most people find them easier to reach if they are mounted near the top of the radiator.


    Bburd
    delcrossv
  • delcrossv
    delcrossv Member Posts: 1,437

    No other reason? Well, that's a "duh! " moment.

    Thanks!

    Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.
  • bburd
    bburd Member Posts: 1,058

    I am guessing here, but I've never heard of any other reason.


    Bburd
  • jumper
    jumper Member Posts: 2,389

    Supply from top pushes air down and out.

    But if there's a runout, or even worse, a branch under floor…..

    Then steam has to rise in radiator and then switch direction to push air out.

    The above may not be exactly correct. Still a way to think about question.

    delcrossv
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 17,421

    If the radiator used was a "steam-only" type where the sections were not connected across the top, it would not have had a top inlet tapping, so the inlet had to be at the bottom. The usual radiators used with these systems were the hot-water type, which did.

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  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 11,029

    The steam will rise to the top. it will fill diagonally across from the inlet end to the opposite end if the tops of the sections are connected, if the sections are only connected at the bottom it will fill one section at a time starting at the inlet side, once a section is full it will spill out in to the next section.

    delcrossv
  • dopey27177
    dopey27177 Member Posts: 908

    Radiators that have 2 valves at the bottom of the radiator are for piping systems that have vent valves on the radiator. The steam inlet side of the radiator is usually larger than the return. Usually the vent valve is on the return, that's where the vent valve should be.

    A two pipe system can have inlet valves that can be adjusted to regulate the steam flow or have orifices the keep the steam flow down to what the radiator needs by the the proper EDR rating,

    Typically. if the system is sized correctly from the begging and the T stat is in the right place the radiator valve does not have to be played with!

    Jake

  • PEvans
    PEvans Member Posts: 138

    My steam radiators seem to be about half fed from the bottom, but not all. Whatever.

    I like radiators fed from the bottom. If your steam radiator is fed from the top and the radiator's thermostatic tramp is failed closed, opening up the trap body to service it can yield a pretty big mess.

  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 9,529
    edited December 19

    I find that if the radiator is fed from the top, that it is not fed from the bottom. The inverse is also true, if it is fed from the bottom then it is not fed from the top.

    Feeding radiators is an important part of any Radiator Farmers job. A well fed radiator will produce more heat than that of a radiator that suffers from malnutrition. I find that some radiators thrive on a diets of medium to high temperature water while other radiators must be kept on a higher temperature steam diet. Regardless of what you feed your radiators, all radiators waste products are water. That water is always of a lower temperature than the temperature you are feeding it.

    A proper and balanced diet with just the right amount of temperature drop will keep your radiators healthy and live a long and productive life.

    I hope this information on Radiator feeding is helpful @delcrossv

    Yours Truly,

    Mr.Ed

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

    Ironmandelcrossv
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 11,029

    I was thinking that feeding it from the top would keep condensate out of the supply if the radiator doesn't have pitch toward the return.

    delcrossv
  • delcrossv
    delcrossv Member Posts: 1,437
    Trying to squeeze the best out of a Weil-McLain JB-5 running a 1912 1 pipe system.
    EdTheHeaterMan
  • EdTheHeaterMan
    EdTheHeaterMan Member Posts: 9,529

    Anything I can do to further. the cause… I'm a giver!

    Edward Young Retired

    After you make that expensive repair and you still have the same problem, What will you check next?

    delcrossv