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  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,765

    @Jamie Hall

    To combat low flow toilets I sometimes flush twice or just once and hold the handle down. Defeats the low flo. Ya gotta do what you gotta do.

    Don't sick the green people on me.

    Intplm.
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 25,191

    Probably 3 inch PVC would fix it — or certainly help… but I'm not up to digging up that much pipe! We think it's clay… old places are such fun!

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,887

    Chris just noticed the video link. I always thought that no swirl or rotation may lead to a scorpion affect and really jam things up. Glad it’s working well

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,887

    @PC7060 im not super knowledgeable with different types- don’t all toilets flow water from the rim? Don’t all toilets have the siphon passageway at the bottom? I don’t pay enough attention, don’t work with toilets like I did in the past

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,887

    @ChrisJ 4” is preferred for longer distance. 5 feet seems good, more than enough at 1/8” per foot

    Some flushables just don’t jive. We had a toilet that jammed a 4” line inside our building 2 or 3 times, years ago. it somehow became clear it was a certain towelette that the ladies room was using. It was a mystery- it’s all modern plumbing. Anyway that problem went away.

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 16,765

    Baby wipes, Clorox wipes that stuff is real bad and a lot of people don't know not to flush them. But if they keep flushing them they will know soon enough

  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 25,191

    I learned long ago that if it will go through the throat of a toilet, sooner or later someone will put it through…

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • PC7060
    PC7060 Member Posts: 1,507
    edited June 2024


    I have multiple generations of the Cimarron in this house. The ones from four years ago, had the standard configuration where the water flushes around the rim inside a porcelain tube with holes every 3 inches or so. The water flows tubes both left and right and out of the holes directly down into the bowl.
    The latest generation has an open channel with from the tank out the upper right side only and swirling towards the left and down as it goes producing a lot stronger flushing whirlpool.

    I’ll try to take a video or picture to illustrate the difference.

    Intplm.
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,887

    I yanked it, set it up on a bucket outside, filled it with water, and it flushed poorly. So I popped in the new American standard. I’ll probably take a hammer to it Monday and see if I can find any goodies. I stuck a flashlight in the top and bottom, nothing so far.

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
    PC7060
  • PC7060
    PC7060 Member Posts: 1,507
    edited July 2024

    Gary - I’ve attached a picture of the Kohler Cimarron with the side channel flush. Couldn’t upload the video, but you get the idea.

    GWIntplm.
  • hot_rod
    hot_rod Member Posts: 23,744

    might take it off and look up inside, could be something lodged in the trap

    Augers aren’t always 100% effective

    Bob "hot rod" Rohr
    trainer for Caleffi NA
    Living the hydronic dream
    Larry WeingartenGW
  • Larry Weingarten
    Larry Weingarten Member Posts: 3,630

    Hi, From what @hot_rod said, I remember pulling a plastic fork from a trap in a toilet. It caused all sorts of intermittent and strange troubles. Snake wouldn't touch it, but from underneath I could pull it out. 🤠

    Yours, Larry

    GW
  • PC7060
    PC7060 Member Posts: 1,507

    little plastic floss sticks are a joy as well. 🙃

    GW
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,887

    yes the bowl is good from top and bottom. Whatever’s going on, it’s out of sight. I’ll bust it open and see what’s going on.

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 17,479

    That's called either a cyclone or a vortex. Toto was first to offer this.

    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
    Oil & Gas Burner Service
    Consulting
    PC7060
  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,307

    I have told this story before, but believe it is too good to not repeat:

    3 adults living in a rental house, all working at the same office. The one WC was almost overflowing with flushing, plunging did not clear it. So the closet auger found a toothbrush that was caught crossways in the trap.

    I threw it away, went to the office and told them what I found. And also that I rinsed the brush and put it back in the wall holder. They paid me and I left.

    I am sure that 3 new toothbrushes were purchased that day. 😈

    Larry WeingartenratioGWIntplm.
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 11,113
    edited July 2024

    Wasn't there an MTV show that seemed to be entirely this? No idea what the show was, but the commercial that ran over and over again was some guy saying he put someone's toothbrush up his butt.

  • JUGHNE
    JUGHNE Member Posts: 11,307

    Don't know about MTV, but there was a story of a couple whose hotel room was broken into.

    Only some weeks later they checked the recording on their video camera which was left in the room, but not stolen.

    They were aghast to view only someone's butt with their toothbrushes being inserted.

    That would make you want to brush (with a new one) and gargle.

  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,887

    Nothing!! Oh well it was fun to smash it up in any case

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
    mattmia2Intplm.
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,887

    J that’s very bold- wow.

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 11,113

    Casting defect? change to the surface finish?

  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,887

    what's odd is that is was fine for 4 years. I'll never know, it's in pieces now.

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,887

    @Steamhead cool thanks, I have some OCD about keeping all the toilets the same in this building. Next time I will try one out.

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 11,113

    They usually glaze the interior to help with flow now. I wonder if it being etched or being coated with some thing like mineral deposits could have that dramatic an effect. Or some passages clogged connecting the rim to the trapway.

    GW
  • DCContrarian
    DCContrarian Member Posts: 793

    Or whatever was jammed in there fell out when you unbolted it and went down the drain.

    CLambIntplm.
  • GW
    GW Member Posts: 4,887

    I guess that's possible, it would have been sitting at the bottom of the bend tho

    Gary Wilson
    Wilson Services, Inc
    Northampton, MA
    gary@wilsonph.com
  • Dave Carpentier
    Dave Carpentier Member Posts: 620

    Hardest one I had.. they used it for a while after it plugged, waited to call I guess out of embarrassment.

    So I managed to snake (4' snake) and get some flow but then it would stop.. add water to fill some pressure and snake again. Over and over, some flow then stop, each time something hard and immovable was felt catching the snake on the way back out, but I would only bring up paper. I started wondering if it was a pipe and I was gonna break something pulling so hard. Sure enough something finally did break, and come up on the snake. Was 2/3rds of a hair pick. I guess it was acting like a screen and allowing flow when i yanked the paper blob away.

    30+ yrs in telecom outside plant.
    Currently in building maintenance.
    GW