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Dan Foley
Dan Foley Member Posts: 1,258
in THE MAIN WALL
We have serviced this 25 year-old W-M LGB-10 steam boiler at this stone church in Cleveland Park for over ten years. Over the years, we have replaced all the traps, radiator valves, F&T traps and main vents in the system. The boiler started to leak between the center sections onto the burners so it was time for replacement.

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  • Dan Foley
    Dan Foley Member Posts: 1,258
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    We went back with a 7-section Crown 24-7 with a Beckett power gas burner (Lo - Hi - Lo off of a Vapor-Stat).

    Brian had the 6" "Bazooka" welded at a local pipe fab shop to make the header piping easier. I prefer the companion flanges to a welded header as the still have some "give" to them.

    We fired this one up last week.

    - DF
    ChrisJSWEI
  • DanHolohan
    DanHolohan Member, Moderator, Administrator Posts: 16,529
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    What can I say?
    Retired and loving it.
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 15,708
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    DanHolohan said:

    What can I say?

    "Awesome".
    ;)
    Single pipe quasi-vapor system. Typical operating pressure 0.14 - 0.43 oz. EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Control for Residential Steam boilers. Rectorseal Steamaster water treatment
  • ratio
    ratio Member Posts: 3,628
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    Very nice! I've got a Peerless 211A-8, about the size of that, that I'm responsible for, but the piping isn't anything near that nice. At least not yet.
  • Tinman
    Tinman Member Posts: 2,808
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    You steam heavyweights rock!

    Nice touch with the Dead Men sticker.

    I didn't know "explosible" was a word. Really, I didn't.
    Steve Minnich
  • SWEI
    SWEI Member Posts: 7,356
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    Sweet -- and I'll be that two stage firing will really make the system hum.

    Welded header with flanges must have saved a boatload of time & money over screwed six inch.
  • nicholas bonham-carter
    nicholas bonham-carter Member Posts: 8,576
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    That's a good use for a welded header.
    Any idea of the cost difference over threaded pipe and fittings.
    When I have raised funds for my funeral chapel project, I anticipate using a drop header about that size, with 4x 3 inch risers from 2 boilers, and would think the welded header would be more cost effective.--NBC
  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 23,327
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    Welded headers are wonderful -- the drop header on Cedric is one -- but one caution: make sure that somewhere in the assembly there are enough threaded or flanged joints arranged so that differential expansion doesn't cause a problem. If this is a single riser (Cedric is) it's not a problem. Two or more risers? Problem.
    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • Dan Foley
    Dan Foley Member Posts: 1,258
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    Nicholas,

    I did not price out the 6" threaded fittings. The welded header was well less than $1k. The primary savings was in labor.

    - DF
  • Dan Foley
    Dan Foley Member Posts: 1,258
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    Jamie,

    Point well taken. I have seen mis-piped headers actually spread the boiler sections apart. In this case, I believe the threaded risers and drop header create a swing joint that will relieve any stress. The companion flanges also provide a little give - more so than a welded connection.

    - DF
  • RobG
    RobG Member Posts: 1,850
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    Did the boiler come with the "Dead Men's" sticker or is it an option? ;)
  • KC_Jones
    KC_Jones Member Posts: 5,739
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    RobG said:

    Did the boiler come with the "Dead Men's" sticker or is it an option? ;)

    I would love one to put on my boiler....would look good with the flame job. I thought Dan said they weren't available anymore?
    2014 Weil Mclain EG-40
    EcoSteam ES-20 Advanced Boiler Control
    Boiler pictures updated 2/21/15
  • Steamhead
    Steamhead Member Posts: 16,845
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    Beautiful job, Dan. I'm glad to see you posting your installs again!
    All Steamed Up, Inc.
    Towson, MD, USA
    Steam, Vapor & Hot-Water Heating Specialists
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    SWEI
  • j a_2
    j a_2 Member Posts: 1,801
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    Wow awesome, maybe not all the dead men stayed dead...
    jonny88vaporvac
  • Abracadabra
    Abracadabra Member Posts: 1,948
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    Dan, when you install a large header like that, do you feel comfortable leaving it's weight on the risers? Typically I like to use clevis hangers.

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