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Corroded connectors on new boiler.

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Hello, I had a new boiler installed in March 2025 and I just noticed the inlet and outlet connectors are corroded and leaking. Brass reduction fittings were used on them. Will the boiler need to be replaced?

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  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 19,279

    @TonySoprano

    Could you supply some more information? Pictures and model of the boiler. If the boiler was just installed 8 months ago it will not have to be replaced.

    Did you contact the installer?

  • Jamie Hall
    Jamie Hall Member Posts: 26,705

    Pictures? That's awfully quick for ccorrosion..

    Br. Jamie, osb
    Building superintendent/caretaker, 7200 sq. ft. historic house museum with dependencies in New England
  • TonySoprano
    TonySoprano Member Posts: 5

    It's a TriangleTube Smart 80.

  • pecmsg
    pecmsg Member Posts: 6,708

    you’re installing contract as to take them apart clean them and make them tight this time

    ChrisJ
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 17,037

    You’re installing contractor has to take them apart clean them and actually make them tight this time

    I fixed it for you. πŸ˜‰

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

    pecmsg
  • TonySoprano
    TonySoprano Member Posts: 5

    Isn't that galvanic corrosion though?

  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 19,279

    Two disimliner metals but it is ok. Take them apart clean them up and put back together. Do it befor it gets worse.

    ChrisJ
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 17,037

    Everything there is minerals from your water leaking and evaporating.

    IMO the dissimilar metals aren't an issue.

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

    ethicalpaulCLamb
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 19,279

    I agree but dissimilar metal sometime are a little more difficult to join together thus are more likely to leak

  • Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
    Alan (California Radiant) Forbes Member Posts: 4,620
    edited November 19

    Those are stainless steel nipples that are welded to the inner tank. Use more teflon tape or teflon rope.

    I just installed a Viessmann indirect that had the same stainless nipples and the cold nipple at the bottom of the tank leaked. I redid the threads multiple times with different applications of tape and dope; none of those worked. What finally stopped the leak was Loctite teflon cord wound into the threads.

    8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour

    Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab
    ChrisJethicalpaul
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 17,037

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

    Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 19,279

    Chances are something is made in China.

  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 15,192

    or everything. even if the tank was assembled in the us the weld nipples are probably from china

  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 19,279

    @Alan (California Radiant) Forbes

    I had that happen on Viessman indirects as well. PP adapter onto the ss nipples was bone dry when installed a year later no water but a little corrosion.

    Maybe the SS & brass expand at different rates.

  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 8,026
    edited November 18

    Your installing contractor has to take them apart clean them and actually make them tight this time

    Fixed it for both of you πŸ˜…

    Chances are something is made in China.

    Because american fittings can't be incorrectly taped and tightened, Ed? Come now πŸ™‚

    NJ Steam Homeowner.
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    mattmia2
  • ChrisJ
    ChrisJ Member Posts: 17,037

    Single pipe 392sqft system with an EG-40 rated for 325sqft and it's silent and balanced at all times.

    ethicalpaul
  • HomerJSmith
    HomerJSmith Member Posts: 2,675
    edited November 18

    The problem is the dissimilar metals. Brass and stainless steel. I have had a problem with Lochinvar indirect tanks that leaked for that very reason. I unsoldered the heat exchanger copper piping 3 times one particular time, using different thread sealants. I had leaks every time. The solution that stopped the leaking was the use of Locktite Anaerobic thread sealant. That's all I use for these connections, now.

    Looks like you have hard water in your boiler sys. Too much mineralization. I would replace your water with good water.

  • EBEBRATT-Ed
    EBEBRATT-Ed Member Posts: 19,279

    @ethicalpaul

    You know the quality of China stuff is all over the place. Some is ok and some is not.

    I bought a box of Chinese nipples at a supply house late in the day and never looked in the box and when I opened it the next morning more than half the nipples had torn up threads. It didn't help that I was 2 hours away from that supply house in the morning and nowhere around to buy more. I am not talking about a couple of nicks I mean totally unusable and I needed them. So yeah. If that makes me prejudiced than I guess I am. And as far as brass goes have you ever (in recent times) bought any brass that was not made overseas?

    I have bought Ward (when they were in business) and Anvil stuff and seldom had a bad fitting. My problem is the damage to those nipples could be easily see. Someone looked at them threw them in the nipple pack and didn't care.

    We also did a gas job once with black foreign pipe. It wouldn't pass a pressure test. High pressure gas line 10psi. This was 100s of feet of pipe all with welded fittings. We spent days wasting time looking for leaks. Pipe was 15' in the air. Had to cut it all out new pipe reweld re pressurize etc. Lot of money wasted.

    Turned out it was the seam in the pipe itself that leaked

    ethicalpaul
  • ethicalpaul
    ethicalpaul Member Posts: 8,026

    I don’t deny some garbage has come out of China. But remember, it was specified, ordered, accepted, paid for, and/or stocked by American companies.

    NJ Steam Homeowner.
    Free NJ and remote steam advice: https://heatinghelp.com/find-a-contractor/detail/new-jersey-steam-help/
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  • mattmia2
    mattmia2 Member Posts: 15,192

    neither the people making it or selling it knew what they were looking at.

    I had that problem with a knockoff of a supco piercing tap. It had this spiral up the side of the needle that wasn't machined off so all the refrigerant leaked out in a few weeks. Why someone would knock it off in the first place i have no idea, like I don't see that as being a big market to go through the trouble.

    home depot brass nipples are the first time i had problems with npt joints leaking

  • Kaos
    Kaos Member Posts: 833

    I find some of the bits from overseas use straight thread instead of NPT. The NPT fitting will thread on but you'll have a hard time sealing. That is also a pretty shallow fitting on the nipple, it could have bottomed out before the thread sealed.

    ethicalpaulHomerJSmith
  • Alan (California Radiant) Forbes
    Alan (California Radiant) Forbes Member Posts: 4,620
    edited November 19

    Leaks at transition fittings is part of the reason I use unions when connecting appliances. Typically, Propress x male or female. Expensive, but they save time if there's a leak and the next guy that has to service the equipment will thank you, even though you may no longer be in this world.

    8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour

    Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab
    clammypecmsgGGrossTonySoprano
  • GGross
    GGross Member Posts: 1,708

    OP the good news is that this is fixable. The bad news is that the company that made this indirect water heater went out of business on the 3rd. (it's not a boiler in your photo, and its a leak on the domestic side, so no boiler water involved with the leak)

    It doesn't matter what language the people that made the pipe nipples speak, you can get a leak free connection there. These are generally regarded as good tanks, despite the company going under

    TonySoprano
  • And I'd say you can forget about the lifetime warranty.

    Make sure the cap on the auto air vent is tight. Most SMART failures I've see have been because the air vent leaks and rusts through the outer tank.

    8.33 lbs./gal. x 60 min./hr. x 20°ΔT = 10,000 BTU's/hour

    Two btu per sq ft for degree difference for a slab
    GGrossmattmia2
  • TonySoprano
    TonySoprano Member Posts: 5

    Thanks everyone!